Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:64790 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52909 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2013 01:28:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Jan 2013 01:28:01 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.211.68 unknown Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:28:00 -0500 Received: from [217.114.211.68] ([217.114.211.68:19422] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F9/2D-02684-E191EE05 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:28:00 -0500 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <50EBDEEE.8070605@sugarcrm.com> <50EC6569.6030202@sugarcrm.com> <50ED9C46.40103@lerdorf.com> User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (SunOS) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: X-Posted-By: 217.114.211.68 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Reflection annotations reader From: dsp@php.net (David Soria Parra) On 2013-01-09, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On 01/09/2013 04:16 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: >> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013, Rafael Dohms wrote: > >>> 1. The syntax is crap: this is solvable, let's find the right syntax >> >> Any extra syntax makes the PHP parser more complicated (and arguably >> slower). I don't want to have it slower/more complex for some arbitrary >> extra syntax just for some weird annotations. > > This is my worry as well. Especially when it comes to opcode cache > support. Most of the patches I see these days completely ignore the > opcode cache side of things which needs to change. For any large > language-level change, any implementation that doesn't also include an > APC diff, or at least a very complete explanation of how it will be > generally supported by opcode caches just isn't complete. I totally agree. So far people are asking me if apc is 5.4 compatible as they want to move to 5.4. Lacking support for APC is a real problem for people to adopt recent versions and with even faster release cycles we should keep think more about APC when we introduce new features.