Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:64780 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 89823 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2013 19:52:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Jan 2013 19:52:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.85.220.169 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.169 mail-vc0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.169] ([209.85.220.169:61251] helo=mail-vc0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A3/17-02684-98ACDE05 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:52:43 -0500 Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id gb23so1939451vcb.14 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:52:38 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=8+WoEYTxJ5td19/6iqDZoxGkjWyLEIH3xqo14Fu/U3Y=; b=ClZnOO+RCDmwlSabxvr4x54AEc/VsEu1zf16vW0ywkwSALpPf9kZiLKb24oiU/5hS0 HGTRsp6WMdC1l9m44odKyuRnturVK5zdES0qq/RadwWl2BtpQuJnRVgIqj3ISuQFK4f9 57KNtbJyQ6X727RPzD1sWzFlc2b6IqBR/ROsPp4zF44rGRQ+ypBwP5497XVYtiqkHsAs IA7XiBKIDUc9QobyJdP85baoXzcgKDgbQJ3Q0gj1M930DzUCG9wvA/chEL8zuox16rw1 mwWiM7rWklykM7u380VHvbpfy5GQqhGYTvh0RMtGGf1OtC8ZuCCMOz9iMUswfymEDbCG Hr2A== X-Received: by 10.220.157.9 with SMTP id z9mr89864810vcw.45.1357761158671; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.200.148] (c-50-131-44-225.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [50.131.44.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dl18sm55373809vdb.2.2013.01.09.11.52.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:52:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50EDCA83.1050904@lerdorf.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:52:35 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Ferrara CC: Stas Malyshev , "internals@lists.php.net" References: <50EDBEA5.1050201@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkQk7FhRc4ZmW36n1MCbak2wH7SnUHALLCoRK3m71IPzL6j1RHI010CyNTkD8fsgJZCFmP0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Was Reflection annotations reader - We Need A Vision From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) On 01/09/2013 11:48 AM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > Rasmus: "A general purpose scripting language with a focus on web > development" > You: "being simple and practical and focused on the web" > > While they both have "web" in them, they provide very different goals and > metrics with which to gauge contributions by. And that's the entire point > of my call for a single, consistent and official vision... They don't seem different to me, and the first one is the documented statement that has been the first thing people see on http://php.net for years and years. You can add "simple and practical" to mine or add "general purpose" to the Stas one and it doesn't conflict in any way. -Rasmus