Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:64765 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57882 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2013 17:06:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Jan 2013 17:06:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.113.146.227 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.113.146.227 xdebug.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.113.146.227] ([82.113.146.227:56306] helo=xdebug.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2E/41-02684-5A3ADE05 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 12:06:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (xdebug.org [127.0.0.1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8F0EDE13E; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 17:06:41 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 17:06:41 +0000 (GMT) X-X-Sender: derick@whisky.home.derickrethans.nl To: Anthony Ferrara cc: Rasmus Lerdorf , "internals@lists.php.net" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Was Reflection annotations reader - Pull APC in Core Already From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > Rasmus wrote: > > > This is my worry as well. Especially when it comes to opcode cache > > support. Most of the patches I see these days completely ignore the > > opcode cache side of things which needs to change. For any large > > language-level change, any implementation that doesn't also include > > an APC diff, or at least a very complete explanation of how it will > > be generally supported by opcode caches just isn't complete. > So I guess my point is rather than passing the message that people > making language changes need to think about APC, I think the message > should be that APC needs to get into core (and should be made an > initiative)... As it stands now, it's just going to keep causing > pain... It was a plan in the past, I think we should just do it - now. cheers, Derick -- http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php twitter: @derickr and @xdebug Posted with an email client that doesn't mangle email: alpine