Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:64756 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43822 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2013 16:27:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Jan 2013 16:27:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=larry@garfieldtech.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=larry@garfieldtech.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain garfieldtech.com from 66.111.4.29 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: larry@garfieldtech.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.111.4.29 out5-smtp.messagingengine.com Received: from [66.111.4.29] ([66.111.4.29:52355] helo=out5-smtp.messagingengine.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A8/3E-02684-A8A9DE05 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:27:56 -0500 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE3320A5C for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 11:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:27:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=C8/1Xpwe9Nf9CFKORM+yOc xpM1g=; b=A7AxDCez92nXoCOdq9TfHdNGmiBUkZOGJ0Cj0wsWQ5XxPwAqSdLFNn dfZoFLAZGRN6ekMib3C3UYK7vrXS1IZ8XarMui75OsacQvJx6UoxdmVM5sAXMkIc eyOl8eHN+sJVxo90ijUx/KvWHORRlrf/lBzBFFbe2bJFfFHmuTxQc= X-Sasl-enc: la62HoXspQB9zjnj3DkA5qt/shPb2il4j3j2V4sGfqfn 1357748871 Received: from Palantirs-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [209.41.114.202]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AAA1148252C for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 11:27:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50ED9A87.50605@garfieldtech.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:27:51 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <50ED4C18.3090806@zerocue.com> <9f792e7e11c481c5f4c62ce69ae216b6@mohiva.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] - True Annotations From: larry@garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) Before we all bikeshed on the syntax, shouldn't we be figuring out the feature-set first? Over in PHP-FIG, we've found it useful to audit the existing market to see what's in use. That doesn't dictate decisions we make, but it can be instructional. Eg, if we find that most annotation-using projects out there currently support and use arrays in annotations, then any core implementation really needs to support that as well in order to be a reasonable replacement. Maybe not in the same way, but feature-parity with the current market is the bare-minimum for any such core feature to be successful. It could certainly go farther, but it cannot go less-far. --Larry Garfield