Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:64238 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 17358 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2012 20:53:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Dec 2012 20:53:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tom@punkave.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tom@punkave.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain punkave.com designates 209.85.220.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tom@punkave.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.170 mail-vc0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.170] ([209.85.220.170:39711] helo=mail-vc0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 40/20-16251-FBB46C05 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:53:19 -0500 Received: by mail-vc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id fl11so3155528vcb.29 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:53:19 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=W3qKN+wNYowLWKYLqfk+YxlFtoL2m2JZNKbwiZBR49Q=; b=QtZzacGmfnljTG9NnsXUkhECmqSDfk878oo9cB6nEix57x1fKHApQQNWo+hg70RARt 0ZzgQn6f5BUmbQG6g4/IhVXOSKQl5dDPpwmhgDtnt5LBuCYifWU8zJAhVruAPsnn7xkp BMRKpoGs4s6sW0w5SZtUmT52H6CZYKKL2eLDQbJclLSFtd3qHaqejL2/TXBv7IUhZikA dxWaHOsChukh2YczoCESeXDN6sBmwzQq5nZTqN5Bmytnu75IbkkWHcUU9uI71QK5ERB4 SaLf0c3cIvBrcqMhD2QxbO/Oi6A6TyAZ/5RYVJHmgeKr0/6NERT0npkmAGqH7fZEeFuV 62SQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.240.141 with SMTP id la13mr9581456vcb.39.1355172799359; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.182.164 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:53:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1355137083.3178.24.camel@guybrush> <1355143879.3178.37.camel@guybrush> <1355149483.3178.44.camel@guybrush> <50C641B9.1030402@anderiasch.de> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:53:19 -0500 Message-ID: To: Florian Anderiasch Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , Adam Harvey , PHP internals list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQldLOgG+veik0qZwAK+35+JoCCi2FfM8Y7srcJW/qDadTf7OUHeVpRirJUKN2LhuOQYf/9L Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.3 - end of live schedule From: tom@punkave.com (Tom Boutell) (Really shouldn't run 5.4, rather) On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Tom Boutell wrote: > Has APC's PHP 5.4.x support matured yet to the point where folks are > comfortable there's no environment in which you really shouldn't run > 5.3? > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Florian Anderiasch > wrote: >> On 10.12.2012 15:24, Johannes Schl=C3=BCter wrote: >>> On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 21:08 +0800, Adam Harvey wrote: >>>> To be honest, Debian isn't really the distribution I'm worried about. >>>> Ond=C5=99ej does good work, and Debian Wheezy has PHP 5.4 and isn't mi= les >>>> off, it seems. >>>> >>>> RHEL and Ubuntu are mostly the ones I'm thinking of here =E2=80=94 RHE= L 7 is >>>> supposed to be out in the second half of next year, but history (and >>>> my own experience both in supporting users and dealing with vendors) >>>> suggests that RHEL users are slow to upgrade. Ubuntu won't have >>>> another LTS release until 2014. >>> >>> All those are interested in are "critical"/"security" fixes. Besides >>> that the version is frozen. So for those I don't see a benefit to >>> continue providing unrelated fixes. >> >> Yes, with RHEL 6.3 using 5.3.3 I don't see how doing anything besides >> going into "bugfix mode" is going to benefit those users, or is there a >> 6.4 planned? >> >> Greetings, >> Florian >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> > > > > -- > Tom Boutell > P'unk Avenue > 215 755 1330 > punkave.com > window.punkave.com --=20 Tom Boutell P'unk Avenue 215 755 1330 punkave.com window.punkave.com