Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:64218 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67231 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2012 12:21:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Dec 2012 12:21:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=adam@adamharvey.name; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=adam@adamharvey.name; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain adamharvey.name designates 209.85.223.178 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: adam@adamharvey.name X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.178 mail-ie0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.178] ([209.85.223.178:55807] helo=mail-ie0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2C/41-60401-FC3D5C05 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 07:21:36 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c12so9278199ieb.23 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 04:21:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adamharvey.name; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OMT3+NyzKujUjHhC669YxtQBQmibbYtMat2z6LccGKk=; b=zLROGG70xGg1GyHtPfQBK4uEgl5UAWXCnCLMdlRziqiWowQM59a5fng13+jizRK7E4 TmdJSRqbYvBlaqwMWouWVICaAZ2Uwnkw9+z+f6JN9Smv/JLWz9gvScJw+i4KE4wkR6/C FHYETX4WepNyd90g3vDQdl6HRVwFphPIHmp1Q= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=OMT3+NyzKujUjHhC669YxtQBQmibbYtMat2z6LccGKk=; b=gn5+KJeVg4EHW9mOVxU6x2qKzTApgFcEc4sKpvdRPi7uIT0aFddjpV/eWamo66+URo hzxvTLVyfP5Q5tqGtp1zbZQf6MWgTK85Vq4Z/Mpy9g3jUKMswV0+m6iKtZud7auuf4iG zaPbktnNl7Bd3Vbapwwv+AmJJ95x8VAXK9/UbZnikqvx/NX++pTBH3XCVjgX/Ys2TVCF YMhqMuDvJedEsiaw6dxpoyZCqVZQntxcbkr3kRJEUAFlRycZIa1HOwNORtlJpiZG0D+p tjTnqV0HdJ5RAHkdO9DBl2G+7JQEEDJpE9U27q6sYwxxpSrMU0WfYfhw+O4c8mxXtMz0 NSjw== Received: by 10.50.190.163 with SMTP id gr3mr6408050igc.28.1355142093580; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 04:21:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adam@adamharvey.name Received: by 10.42.230.74 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 04:21:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1355137083.3178.24.camel@guybrush> References: <1355137083.3178.24.camel@guybrush> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:21:13 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yQW8eX1d-zbjbgSaEVC5mwB2CsE Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?= Cc: PHP internals list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl4mOF9xIpX2k2CX3+XiV3ZLt9yULcImsDRlHX4o5b/S7gsHdkT5Y+UmDu7ACLgOpeX6B9c Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.3 - end of live schedule From: aharvey@php.net (Adam Harvey) On 10 December 2012 18:58, Johannes Schl=C3=BCter wrote: > As of this date the 5.3 branch will go to extended support and should > receive security fixes only. Releases will be made based on need. > > Please mind that the above schedule is tentative and unpredictable > events might change this. > > Comments? At the very least, I think we should keep full support going until 5.5.0 final is out, which it strikes me probably won't be in February at our current rate. Beyond that, I don't particularly want to create a rod for our own backs ($DEITY knows, _I'm_ useless at merging across branches, as you all know), but I wonder if 5.3 might need a bit longer in one form or another. RHEL 6, Debian 6, Ubuntu 12.04 (not the latest stable version, unlike the others, but the LTS version), Mac OS X 10.8 (and many of the derivatives of these distros, particularly RHEL) are all shipping PHP 5.3 packages by default. As a result, I think the odds are that developers are likely to develop and deploy applications on PHP 5.3 for quite some time to come. (Plus, 5.3 had most of the big headline features of the last few years =E2=80=94 a lot of people will consider it "good enough".) I'm not suggesting we necessarily extend full support, but I wonder if one year of critical bug fixes and security updates will be enough. Adam, who will now take his 2=C2=A2 and do something useful, like making the MySQL changes from last week.