Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:64149 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47775 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2012 21:50:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Dec 2012 21:50:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.127 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.127 c2bthomr09.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.127] ([213.123.20.127:29370] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 40/1B-18918-0307EB05 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:50:41 -0500 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr09.btconnect.com with ESMTP id KCL42587; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:50:37 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <50BE702C.5000809@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:50:36 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 Firefox/15.0 SeaMonkey/2.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <50BDBCAD.1050601@lsces.co.uk> <176546053.20121204124701@figureone.com> In-Reply-To: <176546053.20121204124701@figureone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Good-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0301.50BE702D.000A, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2012.12.4.213016:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_ENDS_IN_URL, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_1600_1699, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr09.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0208.50BE702D.003D:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Things move slowly in the real world ;) From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Sanford Whiteman wrote: > Lester, are you seriously suggesting we coddle providers who either > > [a] Willfully misrepresent the PHP versioning system, showing they are > utterly tuned out of the PHP support community? Well they are only one of the ISP's who have been posting PHP6 as their next supported version, and been waiting for it to appear. These are the people who have to support naive users who are NOT in a position to re-write code just to make it work with later versions of PHP5, and needing to still run PHP5.2 in parallel with PHP5.4 is not the easiest thing to do on shared hosting? But I was posting it so that people will not be surprised when 'php6' starts appearing in bug reports where users have changed and now need help to fix the problems. I stopped using 1&1's versions of PHP a number of years ago, switching to my own machines with them simply so I could control versions but I can quite understand why they have not switched away from PHP5.2 and they are now providing PHP5.4 as a selectable option, but which HAS to co-exist with their existing working infrastructure! How else could this situation be handled? I'm lead to believe that the date was chosen simply because they do consider the situation a bit of a joke ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk