Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:64077 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49344 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2012 16:30:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Nov 2012 16:30:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.186 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.186 c2beaomr08.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.186] ([213.123.26.186:55911] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 41/92-30696-73C36B05 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:30:48 -0500 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr08.btconnect.com with ESMTP id JUT71976; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:30:44 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <50B63C34.3040800@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:30:44 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 Firefox/15.0 SeaMonkey/2.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <50B5D992.30609@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0301.50B63C34.0058, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2012.11.28.160315:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_ENDS_IN_URL, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_1600_1699, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr08.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B020C.50B63C34.00DD:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE] ext/mysql deprecation in 5.5 From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Patrick ALLAERT wrote: > 2012/11/28 Lester Caine: >> >There is no 'objection' to deprecating the extension, but adding >> >E_DEPRECATED to the code is problematic since that should NOT be present in >> >a PECL version of the code? > Sorry, but removing the E_DEPRECATED notice when moved to PECL is not > part of the proposed RFC and should certainly not happen. > If ext/mysql is deprecated, it can perfectly live in PECL while > remaining deprecated. There ARE (supported) replacements for ext/mysql > and even if someone really one to use it, it should still be > considered deprecated regardless of the repository holding the code. >> >Adding it in one location and not the other does >> >not make sense. > Absolutely! There is no reason to remove that kind of notice in the future. Then perhaps a few more people will start complaining as well then. There is NO reason to have deprecated messages on legacy packages in PECL no other older packages have them? So why pick out this one? This NOT the way to handle retiring well used legacy extensions and it just gets in the way of using E_DEPRECATED when it IS needed! At the very minimum we should be able to ignore warnings when they are well understood without having to hide everything else as well :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk