Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:64070 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24056 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2012 10:30:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Nov 2012 10:30:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=philip@roshambo.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=philip@roshambo.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain roshambo.org from 209.85.220.42 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: philip@roshambo.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.42 mail-pa0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.42] ([209.85.220.42:59545] helo=mail-pa0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 32/00-23752-0E7E5B05 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 05:30:57 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id rl6so5253493pac.29 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:30:54 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=bxW/4ujX+r48AFI8lKwlHPVcySu2bD633qtBqfnU+W4=; b=YkqSAnSaEoNzeZsggh+Kfk6XzrzUWPGgJ5hKtKAUITAHIxjzFMcnPhHukc2LnQhBHJ 92RgM0AbgtGwCNIwy9cW5oDb+Xnv4da6qAufyLxa/auZJRlLXUVOQKW1EThfsFeSADHr cf4YLxXz6ngeDgRYm3axDcVtMCV7D6ixHkTE/m/alqsUwVTRuWIi5A/emNPJ9enZZV7z +xg1rWQbNk7mqlRjfqkgq8z0jbRIiMNEI2t+jpCAor8lEr/2FSwxhPD0SqAPIOHpeXEo /7/1Zfu9oErxw+4MoE+vvmyaS/1gdM+8YR28Wg/FLt5ncRuKWhiqj8k2s2NUhW2BDAJx TkRg== Received: by 10.66.88.130 with SMTP id bg2mr40459453pab.39.1354098654197; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (c-71-56-134-232.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [71.56.134.232]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m7sm12333588paz.3.2012.11.28.02.30.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:30:52 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:30:48 -0800 Cc: Alexey Zakhlestin , PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <0B09D94D-3BBC-491C-8E9D-74384E30383D@roshambo.org> References: <50B5D992.30609@lsces.co.uk> To: Pierre Joye X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkrWMUCac4MnmHQsNcvBls2s9wzW9IZe6C8Dy+HzRM1sgjQM0UaE7ylAiF5O9NvgLz8Noug Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE] ext/mysql deprecation in 5.5 From: philip@roshambo.org (Philip Olson) On Nov 28, 2012, at 2:08 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > hi, >=20 > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alexey Zakhlestin = wrote: >> I voted "no", "(b)" >> We should mention deprecation in manual as hard as possible, we = should >> mention it in ext/mysql/config.m4 and any other place we can reach. >> Then, at some point (I'm fine with 5.6, but 6.0 would do also), we >> should just move it to PECL, without using E_DEPRECATED >=20 > That's exactly why we should use E_DEPRECATED now and not in 5.x+1. > Also no way to kill it in 5.x, that would be worst than anything else. The idea of adding E_DEPRECATED now, and then removing it in PECL, is not an opinion held by everyone. > That being said, let not start this thread, every argument has been > mentioned many times already. Let vote. The idea of moving it to PECL is not represented in the vote. But it's something to consider as it's a real possibility. It could=20 both symbolize that we are serious about not using ext/mysql, and=20 considering most Linux distros would simply switch to offering the=20 PECL version, it'd probably not break much. Worth thinking about,=20 at least. I'm not yet certain what we should do but this PECL topic is=20 intriguing. Hopefully a few others will weigh in with their related thoughts. Regards, Philip=