Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:64004 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5768 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2012 05:09:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Nov 2012 05:09:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=adam@adamharvey.name; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=adam@adamharvey.name; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain adamharvey.name designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: adam@adamharvey.name X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.170 mail-ob0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.170] ([209.85.214.170:61619] helo=mail-ob0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 35/62-20662-FE16CA05 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:09:03 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id wp18so7056281obc.29 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:09:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adamharvey.name; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=TyXWtw+WwKyGscKAzD/KqGiyHQQMFw7dguEFUOHCnZ8=; b=T99vwo3HiAGIIWQFgeUx9OlPS3EUETANDzuqEqKZ+2NegJQwxvfnVJRKo8xpof3fQQ Sp7sPNZDL2lrfNzUssciChL/OQlqdVBi6hYGOmJOx5usEzonEvJWVJzp1Mk8kBGsOZ7h zhE9itS1MRwHZ3pUimR6VFRAfEeed8wkfwvHE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=TyXWtw+WwKyGscKAzD/KqGiyHQQMFw7dguEFUOHCnZ8=; b=e5d3JlseA0l4H8ehI5nGfg704QOrgKjT4xsLkw+ti6mkF6O144RVgv0NDi342QTdA9 9T67xBxpAEjt6bnXMB9Ky2k+kazCzTvbwiuDaIg9n4UEiDwlOjQvZOh87xWUlUWILUmy jZsZ35OStlGt3DIan8/nZgr4TbQ/L/msyDQ7l3neJzQ293iRY0U1I+a2WpHTcyMp+Hn4 Z2zScllRRZ0YFvM8bQcXI9zx0S06zAqMqFENxP8FTBc9EehMdT41uSu3Dzc9IOTyaeOf Tb8umNye6+K954Lp3L50Mx1F2Y9Y38Q5c6BE3QkuFyr++ch35u5VBpCif8AeKeyibwd1 DY1A== Received: by 10.60.154.231 with SMTP id vr7mr15067408oeb.119.1353474540511; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:09:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adam@adamharvey.name Received: by 10.76.123.75 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:08:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50AC60BC.1030207@gmail.com> References: <50A9F799.5080909@codeangel.org> <50AC60BC.1030207@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:08:40 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5TomWaQB1AUh3581xoRFXpw2eMk Message-ID: To: David Muir Cc: Anthony Ferrara , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlqyqwh7F2XrCmETDz6wfjZFJX/sQfPlZzLlWY2FTC4eUVNfU1dNs9mLGCCu3JFAI9ttYeq Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: ext/mysql deprecation From: aharvey@php.net (Adam Harvey) On 21 November 2012 13:03, David Muir wrote: > On 21/11/12 15:47, Adam Harvey wrote: >> 2. If we decide not to generate E_DEPRECATED notices in PHP 5.5, what >> should the next course of action be: >> (a) Enhance the manual text to make the soft deprecation clearer, >> and generate E_DEPRECATED notices in PHP 5.6 >> (b) Enhance the manual text to make the soft deprecation clearer, >> but take no further action in terms of E_DEPRECATED for the forseeable >> future >> (c) Remove the warnings from the manual and undeprecate ext/mysql >> entirely > > Has 2(c) been even suggested? Not that I've seen, but having a "none of the above, I want none of this" option seems prudent. > I take at that 2(b) is for those advocating "Move to PECL with no > E_DEPRECATED notices being thrown"? Not really. We can't really unbundle and move to PECL without deprecating first anyway, IMO. It's basically the option for no real change but clarifying the manual wording, since nobody seems satisfied with it. Or, to put it another way from where I sit: the "too hard, let's make a decision after stringing people along longer" option. Adam