Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:63999 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87626 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2012 01:47:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Nov 2012 01:47:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kris.craig@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kris.craig@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kris.craig@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.170 mail-lb0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.170] ([209.85.217.170:56644] helo=mail-lb0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4E/10-20662-FA23CA05 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:47:28 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id j14so5294925lbo.29 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:47:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=QAWMuH21CKKFL/4SkY5yhj7sbVqAKYrhEYGq67weulM=; b=id5nshFZCkXX7w/WEb6c8LR5RSK8um1P6a+K0Jt3kpI7WtF3KA4PENQw80XsaUop4w RrKIblJZc7lz1CFZzGlgbs0A3lE7fIVn1OZjD4+tXyFNoJM4f3CnXVXZMVFA5QE2zKgs 2FnqLTs87u6NeqI6WtSuBitD4hiagpsVY7YGGE+b6+3FdEg7FytmFRtoajn2z1ge/Ozp DDY1pV+GgSERIaMdcL7sJE8FG8J6lOhPQGp3pwIOSUZE/tSCIK1akZLbsaDjNNfalRUh LvJwKR7UhEBA0mG6hUscAIbYq23/ZUiiUTg+GtlSQrNLq8HrAIcOk11bYHhVyvHqRvqZ dksA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.108.66 with SMTP id hi2mr16180368lab.11.1353462444154; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:47:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.114.2 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:47:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50AC1301.9040800@gmail.com> References: <50A197D2.5070307@oracle.com> <50AB515D.4080505@phpdoc.de> <50AB59F7.1080800@lsces.co.uk> <50AC1301.9040800@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:47:23 -0800 Message-ID: To: David Muir Cc: Lester Caine , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54eecc8335fce04cef78844 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: ext/mysql deprecation From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig) --bcaec54eecc8335fce04cef78844 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:32 PM, David Muir wrote: > On 20/11/12 21:22, Lester Caine wrote: > >> Ulf Wendel wrote: >> >>> 1. Add this link to the RFC?: >>>>> >> https://wikis.oracle.com/**display/mysql/Converting+to+**MySQLi >>>>> >>>> As the author I cannot recommend materials created in 2006 and not >>> updated since then for inclusion into a RFC. >>> >> >> At the end of the day this is the problem all around. There needs >> sufficient volume of mysqli examples and tutorials to at least get some on >> a search for 'mysql php tutorial'. >> >> This IS all about education carrots rather than irritating sticks. >> Perhaps there needs to be a concerted campaign to get the key tutorials >> such as at http://www.w3schools.com updated to a much more modern format? >> >> > > There was a concerted campaign to get w3schools updated, but as far as I > know, it's fallen on deaf ears. And it's not just their PHP info that's > outdated. > > See w3fools.com > > > Cheers, > David > > +1 on ignoring w3schools. Those guys are idiots. I'd never seen the w3fools site before and I love it! One thing in there got me thinking: One of their suggestions to w3schools is that they should "wikify" their content. They obviously won't do that, but what if we launched something like that instead? The PHP manual is a great functional reference point, but it's understandably thin when it comes to tutorials. What if some of us got together and launched a new wiki (I'm thinking something separate from wiki.php.net) site dedicated to providing accurate, up-to-date tutorials on how to do _____ in PHP? Unlike most other sites, we'd be in a good position to displace inaccurate sources like w3schools in the search results. Just a thought, though I'm sure it's not an original one. --Kris --bcaec54eecc8335fce04cef78844--