Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:63921 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9952 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2012 09:44:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Nov 2012 09:44:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes.schlueter@oracle.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes.schlueter@oracle.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain oracle.com designates 156.151.31.81 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes.schlueter@oracle.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 156.151.31.81 userp1040.oracle.com Received: from [156.151.31.81] ([156.151.31.81:18262] helo=userp1040.oracle.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A0/60-08060-9FA06A05 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 04:44:25 -0500 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qAG9iJxw023723 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:44:20 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qAG9iIbN010334 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:44:19 GMT Received: from abhmt115.oracle.com (abhmt115.oracle.com [141.146.116.67]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qAG9iIhS024805; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 03:44:18 -0600 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (/188.174.48.249) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 01:44:18 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <50A2D672.7010600@gmail.com> <50A30144.5070305@phpgangsta.de> <50A3BEC0.8030607@gmail.com> <50A54713.8090102@sugarcrm.com> <50A549EB.2020408@lerdorf.com> <50A58828.4070701@lerdorf.com> <50A59E24.4060704@lerdorf.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:38:02 +0200 Cc: Rasmus Lerdorf , Sherif Ramadan , Anthony Ferrara , Will Fitch , Stas Malyshev , Adam Harvey , Devis Lucato , PHP Developers Mailing List To: Levi Morrison X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10A523) X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: ext/mysql deprecation From: johannes.schlueter@oracle.com (=?utf-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?=) On Nov 16, 2012, at 5:48, Levi Morrison wrote: > I believe we haven't taken all the proper steps. Have we spent efforts > educating the community? Yes. Are those efforts proportionate to the > magnitude of the usage? No; ext/mysql has widespread adoption and > needs widespread education and training resources. I'm happy to learn about proposals for doing that better. For years I'm prea= ching this at conference sessions, webinars, blog posts, private discussions= , ... As do others, both from MySQL/Oracle as well as the community. I'm also happy to talk to projects etc. and assist them with migration as mu= ch as I can. johannes --=20 Johannes Schl=C3=BCter, MySQL Connectors Team, ORACLE Corporation=