Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:6382 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86093 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Dec 2003 00:02:58 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86000 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2003 00:02:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO colo.lerdorf.com) (66.198.51.121) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2003 00:02:58 -0000 Received: from rasmus2.corp.yahoo.com (rasmus2.corp.yahoo.com [207.126.232.175]) by colo.lerdorf.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Debian-5) with ESMTP id hBD02tv8025465; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:02:55 -0800 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:02:50 -0800 (PST) X-X-Sender: rasmus@thinkpad.lerdorf.com To: Ilia Alshanetsky cc: Moriyoshi Koizumi , PHP Internals In-Reply-To: <200312121823.54634.ilia@prohost.org> Message-ID: References: <25BBBBC2-2CD2-11D8-8FCC-000A95CE0C62@at.wakwak.com> <200312121728.44466.ilia@prohost.org> <200312121823.54634.ilia@prohost.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on colo Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Regarding the latest patch on fgetcsv() (stable branch) From: rasmus@php.net (Rasmus Lerdorf) > Why does a vast majority of users have to endure degredation in performance > for functionality that are needed by a few? It's as simple as that. Same > argument applies to basename(). Ilia, we need to try to avoid this sort of thinking. This "vast majority" is most likely only a "vocal majority" these days. It is very likely that the non-mb users are actually the "few" and if we continue along your way of thinking then we need to have an ext/singlebyte that implements all these weird singlebyte string manipulation functions. We need to move towards a uniform platform that works for everyone without putting undue strain on either side. -Rasmus