Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:63818 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41234 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2012 15:25:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Nov 2012 15:25:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lang@b1-systems.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lang@b1-systems.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain b1-systems.de from 217.11.58.35 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lang@b1-systems.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.11.58.35 mx1.b1-systems.de Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.11.58.35] ([217.11.58.35:38943] helo=mx1.b1-systems.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 10/A6-05794-40511A05 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:25:56 -0500 Received: from RLT400ETH.fritz.box (p54B00272.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.176.2.114]) by mx1.b1-systems.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8221F4075 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:25:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50A11500.4050605@b1-systems.de> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:25:52 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <50A10A9D.9070402@oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <50A10A9D.9070402@oracle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: ext/mysql deprecation From: lang@b1-systems.de (Ralf Lang) Am 12.11.2012 15:41, schrieb Ulf Wendel: > Am 11.2012 14:00, schrieb Adam Harvey: >> I've written an RFC to cover deprecating ext/mysql in PHP 5.5: >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/mysql_deprecation. While we handled the soft >> deprecation in the documentation purely via a straw poll on Internals, >> I presume this will end up needing to go to a vote, hence the RFC. > > Adam, > > I am more than happy someone who is not paid by MySQL took the time to > write an RFC. > > I/we have been trying to sing the "stop using ext/mysql"-song since at > least since 2006. We put ext/mysql in a (security) bug fix maintenance > mode only years ago. Too many ignore those attempts to get rid of > ext/mysql. > > I searched a major search engine for PHP MySQL tutorials a few months > ago. 9 out of the top 10 search results demonstrated how to use > ext/mysql. 90% are of the tutorials are ashaming junk in my eyes. Wake > them up. The year 2013 is just around the corner... > > However, because of the documentation situation, we waited and waited. > You initiative seems to show that the deprecation message has finally > reached circles outside MySQL. > > Ulf > I think the best way of getting rid of trash php tutorials is not catering to their wrong ways. Run the standard deprecate-remove cycle instead, as you and most of us prefer. -- Ralf Lang Linux Consultant / Developer Tel.: +49-170-6381563 Mail: lang@b1-systems.de B1 Systems GmbH Osterfeldstraße 7 / 85088 Vohburg / http://www.b1-systems.de GF: Ralph Dehner / Unternehmenssitz: Vohburg / AG: Ingolstadt,HRB 3537