Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:63809 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21252 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2012 14:17:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Nov 2012 14:17:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=adam@adamharvey.name; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=adam@adamharvey.name; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain adamharvey.name designates 209.85.219.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: adam@adamharvey.name X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.219.42 mail-oa0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.219.42] ([209.85.219.42:55949] helo=mail-oa0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 03/92-05794-FF401A05 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:17:36 -0500 Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id j1so6462214oag.29 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 06:17:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adamharvey.name; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oqMJ0B2qsmWmCLwLBq81Z2igZqx1q8YzL6ain1Rw3qk=; b=HXOX+lGpLOshrEH1WYELXlPwmN8532CJ20G92eA0YQ/wG5y9LUVndVV2WN62Vor8yN wgyiUaMxQide2ehmnc0kZWLNNK+aPFwUWxkSpFgn1qI5AqEivZkySrJfGq+TGCohWY6F qejJ3NMBzRn/30hObRG5x+H3AhZRkrLL/VaJ8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=oqMJ0B2qsmWmCLwLBq81Z2igZqx1q8YzL6ain1Rw3qk=; b=bIOTuf3CnxF2pR+ZM1uu/UM3iYynQHJzNCcObPpHtgFjE5nfjzU6woh5PweAKHlAoW DYJ8q6uV7wIRv81F9oGhKQTSPw7x+83g/ylMTzd7+/26Fo7fqdP2vsAi8KKlLkJR5a+T 2ZDC3ImbrbylT6QIzGcV75ZfRnTRdcrsodQyFYSnCnUAOIeIeCRVuRgsXcIN+yqkuy5r nY+fwceDWiwUz+JG3NTqdzMPERWFHCwNxA0wbU2S9NQlsk8l1o7FR68+6K8mcTgqS1MD kjM8VgySBHmMHXqK6wEtE2C7rlif/SbXD6caVwDRnJLxj8ZbU6Xl+AmI+5Obp1KUyr56 obeA== Received: by 10.60.32.178 with SMTP id k18mr14865015oei.8.1352729853348; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 06:17:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adam@adamharvey.name Received: by 10.76.123.75 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 06:17:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <50A0F797.30604@daylessday.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:17:13 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9CxNX984k3n6x8ciEezoxjKYkqk Message-ID: To: jpauli Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmwuuhU8ouT3N8GX8aPRvEJavGyOmRB4y8MpPI1FMloQGxo6S136WF4alshC/TqG8ts0hcM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: ext/mysql deprecation From: aharvey@php.net (Adam Harvey) On 12 November 2012 22:01, jpauli wrote: > Well, I think we can communicate, then educate people so that they > dont use ext/mysql any more. > It will take the time needed, but if we want this move to come up, we > need to start it. Doing nothing about it, things wont move. > > I like educating through the documentation / through conferences, then > through the code, using the designed-for-that E_DEPRECATED , then > removing the extension. > It may take years, but such a project should be clear to everybody > (RFC), accepted, and started :) I agree, but I feel as though we started this process last year. (Informally, really, we'd been doing it for a while before that.) It may or may not be too early to attach E_DEPRECATED to mysql_connect() =E2=80=94 that's why I'm asking. Obviously, I think it's a reasonable time, personally, but fortunately for everyone, I'm not the arbiter of what goes into PHP. Adam, who promises not to reply to any other e-mails until tomorrow. Mostly because it's nearing on bedtime.