Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:63641 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 15598 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2012 10:41:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Oct 2012 10:41:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cpriest@zerocue.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cpriest@zerocue.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zerocue.com designates 67.200.53.250 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cpriest@zerocue.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.200.53.250 mail.zerocue.com Received: from [67.200.53.250] ([67.200.53.250:51367] helo=mail.zerocue.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1C/91-00401-6C86A805 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:41:10 -0400 Received: from [172.17.0.122] (unknown [72.179.52.187]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.zerocue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E14812036F for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <508A68B9.1050801@zerocue.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 05:40:57 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050603030509050809070103" Subject: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Property Accessors v1.2 : isset / unset "failable" From: cpriest@zerocue.com (Clint Priest) --------------050603030509050809070103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm opening up several new threads to get discussion going on the remaining "being debated" categories referenced in this 1.1 -> 1.2 change spec: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/propertygetsetsyntax-as-implemented/change-requests ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *isset / unset / attempted writes when no setter / attempted reads when no getter** * Stas suggested that since there is presently no cases where these can fail that with accessors these should never "fail." Three possible ways to go (maybe others): 1. If all cases can be tested for during compilation, prefer compile failures. 2. Let the compilation occur and at runtime when a disallowed action is attempted, emit a warning and move on. 3. As is currently, either at compilation or at runtime we issue a fatal error and stop execution (probably least preferable if at runtime) If "no failures" should be the way we want to go, then #2 or some derivative makes the most sense. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thoughts? -- -Clint --------------050603030509050809070103--