Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:63486 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94726 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2012 08:17:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Oct 2012 08:17:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.210.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.210.170 mail-ia0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.210.170] ([209.85.210.170:42433] helo=mail-ia0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 14/A3-64689-AA96E705 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 04:17:47 -0400 Received: by mail-ia0-f170.google.com with SMTP id e16so6060031iaa.29 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:17:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=QMKKm1hVAJhZILhQXT4bI8nE+gocBecQbzppI7rveK0=; b=pcMUu6ap9OtTok7+lSSfFTiNrG4MkUBsNjixrHfwmMgC43lF4fB8G9f+334rIo57ut DN7Rwp8H94vUmv3RYFxEpUOXbhwCdpeFS22FLCgl0QpB0Lw7dboaYZc+qbNrFqL5yIfI lRWfeWp5CxSPKRdt6SCB99irTSzmjdUHakk2tbuY95Te+XCHOKSWGgweR5Ru3FqB48rT zCa3Ai+nCaFS7+eZfem9upmi8AyyNNMgqNVZH5BGfL4rnPagEQlCKsHukXKRQV61t3K6 6IsTjPZGnyKoC8bt9+7sE6NRkdCHJyLwsgSD3lvuvaYKY6xjKoFlDF40p3+9OA7vAmKd ifBg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.215.144 with SMTP id he16mr13787153icb.19.1350461863595; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.33.143 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:17:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9570D903A3BECE4092E924C2985CE485612B78D3@MBX202.domain.local> References: <9570D903A3BECE4092E924C2985CE485612B78D3@MBX202.domain.local> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:17:43 +0200 Message-ID: To: Clint Priest Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Alternatives to mailing list? From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, To all readers of this exact thread. No, we won't install a forum on php.net or nowhere else to discuss php.net issues. We have mailing lists, and it works well. We also do IRC discussions and post summaries here from time to time, but that's somehow a personal matter. Please keep focus on the topic threads and try to update the RFC accordingly (before the code, actually much more easier than now where the code does not match the RFC, creating too much WTF for real good feedback). Also keep the discussions constructive, avoid repeating the same arguments over and over again without adding anything good to the topic. Thanks for your understanding, efforts and work! On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Clint Priest wrote: > Is it just me or has this Property Accessors chain of emails been impossible to make heads or tails of? People replying within replies within replies, quoting partial emails, cross-posting and all sorts of chaos. > > Would anyone be willing to entertain an alternative "communication method" with specific respect to building/refining an RFC or fleshing out an idea? > > Heck, I think even live chat meeting over IRC would beat what's been going on... > > Not saying abandon the mailing list, it's crucial, but when there gets to be 150+ emails on one subject and numerous sub-subjects it just seems inefficient at best and chaos at its worst... > > I don't know of anything offhand that would work well but I'd be willing to try and find something we could try out. > > -Clint -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org