Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:63205 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63798 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2012 14:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Sep 2012 14:05:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.185 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.185 c2beaomr07.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.185] ([213.123.26.185:44411] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2E/6C-15057-D922B505 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:05:18 -0400 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr07.btconnect.com with ESMTP id JBV95178; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:05:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <505B2299.7060703@lsces.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:05:13 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 Firefox/15.0 SeaMonkey/2.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <505AEB97.8010303@lsces.co.uk> <505B124A.8070309@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0303.505B229A.0042, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2012.9.20.133915:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_ENDS_IN_URL, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_1600_1699, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr07.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0209.505B229A.0113:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Decode, transcode, sanitize, filter, escape From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > My whole point here is identifying WHAT needs 'escaping'. You can't simply > > 'escape' the output stream, you still want html tags to get out? > > This problem is specific to YOU, because (as far as I understood your > previous post) you decided to store big chunks of HTML in your data > store. It is not a problem with this proposal, or a problem in > general. > > more specifically: accepting HTML, but trying to allow some of the tags but > still filtering most of it. > HTMLPurifier is the tool for this kind of job, but most people would recommend > using some kind of alternative markup format, like BBCode > . Which is another possible solution to the overall problem. Filter the incoming data in a different way :) I'm more than happy with my OWN methods of handling this problem, I was just point out that a LOT of people find ckeditor or one of the html in-line editors and think that is a good way to go ... that was how I started several years ago ... so I'm just putting my hand up and saying that simply creating an 'anti-XSS escaping class' may not work for some people. It is the whole package that is important. ( That is another tack on this was well Paddy ) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk