Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:63046 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45163 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2012 22:47:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Sep 2012 22:47:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.223.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.170 mail-ie0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.170] ([209.85.223.170:43807] helo=mail-ie0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 70/5D-07072-F88A7505 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:47:44 -0400 Received: by ieak14 with SMTP id k14so11623728iea.29 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:47:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hJsIv2Qg1TR1SDmOFclpd3pWUVepGO/8AmidGJxHk+0=; b=xd8o1+GNXamlLxxS+6PGfu/WFqfi4ILJfhJ+vTeZ3eecfK9dWdhkYOUDqYsr8qnZqX B3iXQ3l7fPkL3myv2rJzALJbmzOAjzos3vGRNm8EeWSKioy4SctXfbXUjubZ+3PGpYju kwRjXrYmujiRlFhEBGxdmEfG2y+JxPcDm+/sB/L7t4LY8lgC5NJJlRn9Ei4xkN2gK09e 6lTBTqnyBseg6ZvdtmwdTriH1a/IQs9C/IeRucwCPo0ct7zTJptVuoaOJB2ogQmH1UML X97egLP5WB1pMXR8sjaPPKQqHNgFyNNu0TGCqi0/hKvw/dnGHhrQa9rxY4eBx/WgrnVM 2zKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.215.144 with SMTP id he16mr10248641icb.19.1347922061426; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.89.41 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:47:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1347896176.5709.3002.camel@guyrush> References: <1347893073.5709.2986.camel@guyrush> <1347896176.5709.3002.camel@guyrush> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 00:47:41 +0200 Message-ID: To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= Cc: jpauli , Herman Radtke , David Soria Parra , internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Moving forward: PHP 5.5 From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Johannes Schl=FCter wrote: > There are very few special processes. In fact the only RM-specific > things are around packaging the tarballs up, while that's described in > an README. Besides that all processes affect everybody in the community > and everybody should be aware of it. The RM simply is the last instance > to identify/judge if things are unclear. the requirements for that are > a) knowing the code quite well b) knowing whom to ask for a given issue. > both things are good qualifications for *any* contributor. > > In my mail I also suggested to "train" a successor later in the game. > Nowadays,thanks to all the RFCs and so on, the role of the RM is on the > one hand very limited and on the other hand requires maing clear > decisions. And well, two persons give two clear decisions or increase > workload for themselves (due to extra coordination) and everybody else > (for having two guys to follow) That's where you see it wrong. There is only one team to follow, not two guys. The RMs have regular contacts, approve together important changes (aka no one liner or similar), etc. They are also more keen to get a better judgment than a single person (different views, etc.). There is no extra work load, only benefits. Also seeing what happened with the latest 5.3, I wonder if we should not have two again for 5.3 as well (kidding but.. ;-). Cheers, --=20 Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org