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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Download PHP binaries
From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine)

Remi Collet wrote:
> I recently noticed that onhttp://www.php.net/downloads.php,
> "Redhat/CentOS Binaries" link to a third party repository [1].
>
> First, this could be confused for users, as this is not a Red Hat or
> CentOS official repository.
>
> Why PHP project (seems to) recommend the use of a third party repository
> among others ?

Since the IUS Comunity Project is provided by Rackspace who also support the PHP 
project, it's perhaps not surprising that they get a listing? But a news page 
which was last updated in July 2011 does not give much confidence in the offering!

> Yes, I'm probably offended because I also maintain a third repository
> [2], trying to be as close of upstream as possible, as complete as
> possible (ex: php 5.3.17 / 5.4.7 [3] or latest msgpack extension [4]
> already there, with more than 300 php-* packages)
>
> It seems (at least to me) that this should be clarified.

I've been annoying people here banging on about this for a long time ;)
Last night I spent a couple of hours again trying to find an 'off the shelf' 
distribution that even had PHP5.4 and Apache2.4 ... My SUSE installations are 
still well behind on 5.3 and the other hosted sites I've taken over are still 
well and truly stuck with 5.2 as an upgrade to 5.3 recently was rolled back ... 
too many sites went down!

I have got to the point where it seems to me *WE* need to maintain a directory 
of distributions with details on which versions of the stack are supported since 
trying to find 'current' even unsupported repositories are a problem, and the 
latest LTS versions all look like they are going to maintain PHP5.3 for some 
time to come!

YES we can install form source and build our own stack, but this requires 
documentation on how to DISABLE updates to the manually installed stuff from the 
necessary automatic updates. Certainly on SUSE something is getting messed up 
between the manually installed stack, and the automatic security updates.

With reference to your own repository Remi - it only supports the PHP elements 
and MySQL? Where does it link to Apache? I'd loaded Ubuntu on the recommendation 
of others, but STILL can't find PHP5.4 and need 10.04 anyway which is an LTS 
version for some other applications :( My MAJOR headache here is the different 
configuration setups between distributions for Apache, PHP and in my case 
Firebird ... having got all of the virtual hosting configured using the SUSE 
style configuration structure, porting that to alternate configurations is not a 
5 minute job.

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