Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:62945 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83181 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2012 08:59:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Sep 2012 08:59:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.42 mail-pb0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.42] ([209.85.160.42:32868] helo=mail-pb0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C3/99-33014-B6DFE405 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:59:24 -0400 Received: by pbbrp8 with SMTP id rp8so482009pbb.29 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:59:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=V5Aszncs0kmEQ7S9R8xpys5AroCMmtC44jw6UlUffDM=; b=cxKCn7xwd+VDUlU+WGhMw7FkiCkfoF9B1WmMOmKvQxSe4tzZkXckTi1Le11nZa2D3K iJ/FX+iRRMHZiuqgw+YmtmxDRfbXT9j3FEwSVzFNXLzI5xx/YkFAprHYq/lDLmcpbkpz vGrF3u1fLpbXeUinmUvnsQ1v1MZLVFTW8CAFMA9po1SA03TUu+pNsH4VakdaVGWbnq4d eC3NpQEQCnBElbgy5SG+X97av5L4CVK/sgehR8CN8+xQliZj/ihlJOjWOVgAVuqMmouR paCamJ6TMKLitKRllnu4qnIW0Aqi5YtiM0U+tOFxU8RKIr+2EWbmgjwbR/JrvCarzQCC vOMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.218.196 with SMTP id pi4mr10314324pbc.128.1347353960671; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.15.70 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:59:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <504E4568.4030701@lerdorf.com> <504ED075.9010200@sugarcrm.com> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:59:20 +0200 Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: Nikita Popov , Rasmus Lerdorf , Anthony Ferrara , jpauli , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is our definition of a "Backward Compatibility Break" From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: >> Hi! >> >>> We do not have this clue in master and there are for sure non >>> acceptable BC breaks in master. They won't be in 5.5. I'd said before, >> >> Why don't we have a clue? We definitely do have a clue, we have git logs >> and we know what went into master - it is not that old. Could you list >> the non-acceptable BC breaks that are now in 5.5? > > Reading it does not tell me if something has changed from 5.4 to master/5.5. > > However we can at least run against the 5.4 tests suite and compare, > see why tests fail etc. :) Btw, on a similar note, I would really appreciate if every change in the internals APIs (additions, API changes, removals, etc.) as well as the user land areas are documented in https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/master/UPGRADING.INTERNALS and https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/master/UPGRADING respectively. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org