Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:62905 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37156 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2012 14:15:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2012 14:15:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.223.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.170 mail-ie0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.170] ([209.85.223.170:41218] helo=mail-ie0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 07/A2-12482-1135B405 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:15:45 -0400 Received: by ieak14 with SMTP id k14so722451iea.29 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:15:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=d99+h5KHM2SrEVc9LMBtcMEfcoj7aCdTQ2rJ13GyjFI=; b=R6ee6cCz6ksbyIVjnZ+Xb5lNXsYUjps32UdyynZiGNNe2YFZLqasEWyEqDYPzYsHeD 6UBWINAUXGEyiVb/cp34mYVO7nZFb6ekTcaRs4y962TKv8xrn+jlfC8lLWQGgMR3ORfv iC7tWFcIXMIot7Aqb/2LHeSWfJ4/NgTfMxGfKpVxT0kdCqAmZETQcj7GXWYjhriIaoy1 QQNXr1RmgP19AjXFNV4gaZczynvuCN99HUL6/4YTsBIdwOKnIN5KVYKZOLzWJTtcS5XD HEj5WbxbE5IhOqrqhBEFbmwvnQJbclTfG+5JTKODQhFFOPwRtbu/l/jyFf/u4Gc3TnYE zZ5g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.41.164 with SMTP id g4mr2538711igl.71.1347113743050; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.60.40 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 07:15:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:15:43 +0200 Message-ID: To: David Soria Parra , internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Moving forward: PHP 5.5 From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) Hi! On Sep 8, 2012 1:49 PM, "David Soria Parra" wrote: > As most people know we do not include patches in 5.4 that will break > backwards compatibility. We do not include them anywhere in any future 5.x release either. That's clearly define in the RFC and we won't change that. Feedbacks from users on that is clear and loud, best decision ever. > Those patches are in the 5.5 branch and we > are also stockpiling some new features. There is o 5.5 branch, there is master. Master is the development branch and as such can have such breakages. It does not mean that we have these BC breaks in 5.5. 5.5 should be based on 5.4 with the feature additions and improvements we want in, but definitively not with BC breaks. > We have implementations for > foreachlist, generators, hash_pbkdf2 and others are likely to get included > in the next weeks like the simplified password hashing API. > > Following the release process RFC, I would like to start discussing the > beginning of the 5.5. series, that can include new features, do bc breaks > if necessary and overall provide a smooth move to a new series without > having the branches diverge for years and years again (like 5.4 and 5.3). > Last but not least, 5.3 is out since 2009 and it would be good to put > the series into a security fix only mode and give it an eol. Yes, let start the 5.3 EOL discussion too and decide when it will stop, or better said, end the discussion as we began it earlier this year :) > As with every new release minor release (read minor as the Y in 5.Y.Z), > we choose a new RM. We had quite some confusion and debates around this > topic the last time, so I'll just go ahead and propose somebody right > away for the job. Two persons, actually. > I would like to go ahead and propose Julien Pauli as the RM for 5.5. Huge +1. When we discussed that, you wanted to give up your role with 5.4 (one is enough at this point) and be co RM for 5.5. Did you change your mind? Cheers, Pierre