Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:62790 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 55322 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2012 13:09:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2012 13:09:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.128 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.128 c2bthomr10.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.128] ([213.123.20.128:35602] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DE/51-46870-C9DF5405 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 09:09:49 -0400 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr10.btconnect.com with ESMTP id IZU99441; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:09:46 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <5045FD98.8080306@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:09:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 Firefox/13.0 SeaMonkey/2.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <5040DC47.8000305@ajf.me> <5040F4D9.80206@sugarcrm.com> <5042946A.80204@sugarcrm.com> <5042A7D6.7050001@lerdorf.com> <50452713.3020307@sugarcrm.com> <5045CAA3.6000409@lsces.co.uk> <5045E044.9080809@lsces.co.uk> <5045F939.6010806@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0302.5045FD99.006F, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2012.9.4.125416:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_ENDS_IN_URL, BODY_SIZE_1500_1599, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr10.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0209.5045FD9A.00BF:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] E_STRICT 'errors' - was Are exceptions allowed in php core? From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Pierre Joye wrote: > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > >> >??? OH YES IT DOES !!! >> >MANY times I get a a few lines of text on a white screen ... >> >Switch off E_STRICT and everything works fine ... as it was on PHP5.2 > If you have any doubts about how to configure your development or > production servers, how to use logs or how to effectively debug php > applications, please ask questions on php-general or php-setup mailing > lists. > > Thanks for your understanding, Butt out Pierre ... I keep being told that there is nothing wrong with E_STRICT, and again someone has said that it does NOT cause crashes. I beg to differ here - IT DOES! Now if you are saying that I need to document these crashes as they SHOULD not be happening then I'll roll things back and start doing that, but *I* thought that these crashes were simply a known effect of using E_STRICT? And so I followed the directions, and switched E_STRICT off. On production machines of PHP5.3 with E_STRICT enabled and on PHP5.4 one gets white screen crashes using older code ... as far as I was concerned that was a known fact. Switch it off and everything runs fine! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk