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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC for Adding __toString to DateTime
From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans)

On Sun, 2 Sep 2012, Andrew Faulds wrote:

> On 02/09/12 21:45, Derick Rethans wrote:
>
> > Yes, and that format is ambigious like I just illustrated. cheers, 
> > Derick
> 
> No, you just demonstrated the time offset format is ambiguous, not the 
> UTC format.

Yes, I am saying that ISO8601 is lossy - and that is something that 
shouldn't be the default format.

Cheers,
Derick