Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:62687 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32640 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2012 20:49:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2012 20:49:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.113.146.227 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.113.146.227 xdebug.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.113.146.227] ([82.113.146.227:53155] helo=xdebug.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A3/77-17065-F56C3405 for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 16:49:35 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC392DE13E; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 21:49:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 21:49:32 +0100 (BST) X-X-Sender: derick@whisky.home.derickrethans.nl To: Lester Caine cc: PHP internals In-Reply-To: <5043AC8D.4060606@lsces.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <5042BC3C.7070208@sugarcrm.com> <50435ABE.4010308@ajf.me> <50436412.7010802@ajf.me> <5043AC8D.4060606@lsces.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC for Adding __toString to DateTime From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Sun, 2 Sep 2012, Lester Caine wrote: > Derick Rethans wrote: > > > Then ISO8601, please. It's a single, unambiguous Date and Time format. > > No it's not unambigious: > > Derick - is this effect just due to daylight saving differences, or IS it a > bit more complex than that? This one illustrated DST issues - but it's very likely going to be more complex that that... > Personally I don't want any timezone/offset displayed as I expect it > to be a UTC time by default on the server, rather than any offset > time, which is why I'm with you that it should only be changed via > user space applications. Yes, and other people expect their timezone in it, and other just local time and others... my point here being that you can't pick a format that works for everybody... cheers, Derick