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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:34:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach
From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig)

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On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com> wrote:

> On 08/26/2012 06:18 PM, Kris Craig wrote:
> > Short of killing ourselves rewriting it in C++, I'm not sure there
> > is an ideal solution to this problem.
>
> Because you think more people can grok C++ than C? That's not my
> experience. C is essentially a subset of C++. Any strong C++ developer
> (I think I have only ever met 2 of those) will know C inside out.
>

I agree.  But keyword there is "strong" lol.  In terms of volume, I've
noticed there are far more C++ and C# developers out there who don't know a
lick of C.  Makes sense if you think about it, as both are designed to make
the job easier, which in turn also reduces the learning curve.  When I
browse through local college offerings in programming, it's not uncommon
for me to see C++ emphasized with no mention of C.  I've always likened it
to learning to drive on an automatic transmission, whereas learning in C is
like learning to drive a stick.  It's harder and most people don't do it
anymore, even though it's far more beneficial in the long-run.

I guess the premise I was alluding to was that, if PHP was written in C++,
there would be a much larger *quantity* of developers with a compatible
skillset.  You're right in that most of them would almost certainly be
lacking in quality, but it would theoretically increase participation
nonetheless IMNSHO.  ;)

--Kris


>
> -Rasmus
>
>

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