Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:62485 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 59275 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2012 13:51:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Aug 2012 13:51:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 64.22.89.133 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.22.89.133 oxmail.registrar-servers.com Received: from [64.22.89.133] ([64.22.89.133:54324] helo=oxmail.registrar-servers.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 81/F8-06857-178D8305 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:51:45 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.200] (5ad3285b.bb.sky.com [90.211.40.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by oxmail.registrar-servers.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DC90758037; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5038D850.6020009@ajf.me> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:51:12 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lester Caine CC: "internals@lists.php.net >> PHP internals" References: <503897B4.8020303@lsces.co.uk> <5038C04D.9080509@lsces.co.uk> <5038C0F8.9060008@ajf.me> <5038D2B1.6060704@lsces.co.uk> <5038D5A2.6050002@ajf.me> <5038D6D0.8020100@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5038D6D0.8020100@lsces.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Older style frameworks ... From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrew Faulds) On 25/08/12 14:44, Lester Caine wrote: > Andrew Faulds wrote: >> ISPs should have moved to 5.3 long ago. If they haven't, that isn't >> our problem. > I'll just refer you to > http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/pl-php/5/all > 5.3 is NOT being used because of the changes it introduced, and > distributions do NOT yet include 5.4 as the norm So what on earth are we supposed to do? Say "oh sorry lol we'll start supporting 5.2 again!" or something? > Personally I have to live with real life, and just want to help change > that situation. Me too. My code relies on out-of-date extensions and PHP features, which is why I'm *refactoring* and *rewriting* the parts which do. > If you can't be bothered to help then just stand back! Oh I'd love to help, Lester, but ISP issues are not the PHP group's job. -- Andrew Faulds http://ajf.me/