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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Older style frameworks ...
From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrew Faulds)

On 25/08/12 14:27, Lester Caine wrote:
> Andrew Faulds wrote:
>> OK Lester, you've whined enough, what do you want us to do? Freeze 
>> development
>> for 5 years so ISPs can slowly catch up, or something?
>
> Simply taking care to provide fixed point that we can work to would 
> have helped. LTS versions have been rejected in the past, but PLEASE 
> can we stop producing yet another PHP5.x version and make PHP5.4 an 
> end point that we can work to and produce comprehensive upgrade notes 
> to help people get to that point. Make that an LTS version and move 
> new development over to PHP6 where there would be more 'flexibility' 
> to break things if needs be.
>
> PHP5.2 is the current LTS almost by default, but one thing that we 
> need to try and do is get the user community to move to PHP5.4 rather 
> than the current move to PHP5.3 on many ISP's ( at least the one's I'm 
> having to deal with ). If PHP5.4 is ring fenced then at least we have 
> a point to aim for? Currently the situation on the ground is that 
> PHP5.3 is the next production version for ISP's despite the fact that 
> it's not supported!
>
What? PHP 5.2 is no longer updated. PHP 5.3 is the current LTS, people 
are just being too slow to upgrade.
> I was reconsidering a point I made earlier, and all that we need is a 
> 'legacy' php.ini that would provide a cleaner base for ISP's moving 
> from PHP5.2 and also a reference point so we can document changes 
> needed to the older code to bring it up to date ... strict compliant 
> without any deprecated warnings. A 'matching' php.ini for PHP5.3 would 
> help things in the interim. Having to manage sites on PHP5.2 and 5.3, 
> while testing the same sites on 5.4 is my current situation, and 
> having PHP5.5 looming in the background is just another irritation.
>
ISPs should have moved to 5.3 long ago. If they haven't, that isn't our 
problem.
> I have no doubt that it will take some years for PHP5.4 to replace 
> 5.2, but at least we will have a fixed target to work with?
>


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Andrew Faulds
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