Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:62479 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38344 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2012 12:14:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Aug 2012 12:14:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=david.zuelke@bitextender.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=david.zuelke@bitextender.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain bitextender.com from 80.237.132.12 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: david.zuelke@bitextender.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 80.237.132.12 wp005.webpack.hosteurope.de Received: from [80.237.132.12] ([80.237.132.12:55291] helo=wp005.webpack.hosteurope.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0A/36-06857-291C8305 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:14:11 -0400 Received: from [89.204.130.113] (helo=[10.43.168.113]); authenticated by wp005.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1T5FFf-0003HP-Ei; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:14:07 +0200 References: <503897B4.8020303@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <503897B4.8020303@lsces.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: Cc: PHP internals X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:14:03 +0200 To: Lester Caine X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;david.zuelke@bitextender.com;1345896851;ffd9eef3; Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Older style frameworks ... From: david.zuelke@bitextender.com (=?utf-8?Q?David_Z=C3=BClke?=) On 25.08.2012, at 11:15, Lester Caine wrote: > Many of my 'problems' with all of the 'progress' being made with PHP are c= aused because I'm using a core framework who's origins go back to PHP4 days.= I'm sorry, but what is the point of this email? This is a mailing list, not a= group therapy session for people who didn't update their code regularly. David