Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:62107 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29629 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2012 16:02:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Aug 2012 16:02:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.85.216.170 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.170 mail-qc0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.170] ([209.85.216.170:51055] helo=mail-qc0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9A/6B-00812-AFED3205 for ; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 12:02:03 -0400 Received: by qcmt36 with SMTP id t36so444195qcm.29 for ; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:01:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=GUKJTm5g9+Sz1uW7ntxFmwnyXrB3+6P+Ts3u2T9PUsI=; b=ZWAOIiiIlZwgZMGjncuaT3J0ImJKo9mKZRm/ZgZMXo+ih3ckzTnCYsGFyalCREFpan gC6Xd15KJDsLPNgqiyx/cbtEY+EbcGSHt0KMT3uEL8PQ1s+CRjIhWLYpd5zaXABIw4am FJ/ZMpJYOfeJQTbih7GhF6I78YgukiDMcwi80SJYGaZW5Nb+RN73cfLs7Rqs5QD611us ei/n4W3dmnpw8xo8PBrJRND9MUBHLe5RBGLs8iswSZBuiKbjG0fTGHU2IbWH6O9oq79M eRyXWFQ993QNjUXjUPbhhRAHxHGlszyfjpDR5yFWc7T2bBshdlXANiBdjiG5zQn0MdG/ Jk4A== Received: by 10.229.135.82 with SMTP id m18mr6020185qct.76.1344528118948; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.252.2.34] ([64.124.192.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id et6sm1374646qab.8.2012.08.09.09.01.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5023DEF2.8050802@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 12:01:54 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lester Caine CC: PHP internals References: <5023CE88.60501@cdatazone.org> <5023D4C1.3040205@lerdorf.com> <5023D7D5.1060502@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5023D7D5.1060502@lsces.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnhYgEq+hHpr0hPFjYCwZKsy1gEUFO+qP0MpeO72dWKFU3o5LxxiosAjxwuvlftv/P81iAN Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.3 status From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) On 08/09/2012 11:31 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> On 08/09/2012 11:10 AM, Levi Morrison wrote: >>> >On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Rob >>> Richards wrote: >>>> >>Whats the status of 5.3? I have some changes that need to get into >>>> a couple >>>> >>of the xml based extensions in order for them to work with the >>>> next libxml2 >>>> >>release next month. Should I be putting these into 5.3 as well? >>>> >> >>>> >>Rob >>> > >>> >By no means am I an official representative, but I'd like to see them >>> >NOT put into the 5.3 series. Security fixes I can understand, but we >>> >WANT people to upgrade. If we keep developing 5.3 then what's the >>> >point of 5.4 and 5.5? >> Until we EOL 5.3 we should make sure it builds against current versions >> of common things like libxml2. We also don't have APC ready for all the >> new features in 5.4, so it isn't viable to upgrade to it yet for many >> sites. > > Not just APC ... It would be useful to document all the extensions that > are still only available in PHP5.3 ( or earlier )... > > There seems to be a number of reasons ISP's are giving for not offering > PHP5.4 yet but getting a definitive answer seems impossible. There is no such answer. When we find an extension that hasn't been fixed for 5.4 yet, we fix it. Outside of APC which is on a completely different level, modifying extensions to work with 5.4 is trivial. -Rasmus