Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:62045 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19572 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2012 02:16:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Aug 2012 02:16:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tom@punkave.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tom@punkave.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain punkave.com designates 209.85.220.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tom@punkave.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.170 mail-vc0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.170] ([209.85.220.170:53502] helo=mail-vc0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A3/C5-19861-F77DD105 for ; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 22:16:32 -0400 Received: by vcbgb30 with SMTP id gb30so2098605vcb.29 for ; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 19:16:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=SkRUn4Iw9e8p6Au+3CCzAPuXqJNLl6hfqyWo/HUR5gk=; b=QNtpYdN//Zpv/SbqGtx/0ddgwwQW8TlawnwZiXxm/qXwh+e20WMVpOpBtpHGrORBsr 0fRpsgwLiXbKnXp1AL0G2CGZfWrdnO66NgDR+l2/CEKX1z4RgGTrGvfpBD/R2fig80SY CBBH64IBl3R0EICmAuqeMSX8naiZzbzMywwv4xsEAZ/btWB9m9tSidxsIbNRp3QVB1AC cfaIIEvH/vrAJ/c2DHAsp48yVjjAnl0e6lrvegq/bU0CX2qsi/+fQNT1GxcOmgqpBsZJ GlBJ8T4aUUJP8aKCqLe2frhuKL/icAmQnbKZyLvW+Qh6zT6sbCm9gXbPEmOJ6GxQskxp 6jvg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.35.99 with SMTP id g3mr4335604vdj.21.1344132989143; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 19:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.198.11 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 19:16:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <501D95DB.6050303@lsces.co.uk> References: <501D95DB.6050303@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 22:16:29 -0400 Message-ID: To: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQljijWQaiqA8889Md58UC36AJuoAs2jTU2EGSoRw958CWybvrrBVDpjnJW9d7pJl7i+25ua Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Integrate PECL into PHP From: tom@punkave.com (Tom Boutell) There is already a safe and sensible way to do this in a shared hosting environment: the host installs pecl packages that everyone gets, and only after verifying that they don't reduce the security of the shared environment. Or, yes, just get a vps! Really, it's not expensive anymore (: On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > Yahav Gindi Bar wrote: >>> >>> Shared hosting is cheap for a reason, and trying to cheat >>> >shared hosters by changing PHP both wrong and pointless. >> >> My wish is not to cheat using PHP but to give the shared hosting users >> somehow the ability to enjoy from PECL packages without being restricted >> to >> their providers. >> >> Got your point - maybe it's not possible and I'm just trying to keep the >> cake and eat it... even this said, if somebody got an implementation idea >> or any other way (except from requesting it from the provider) I'd love to >> hear it:) > > > On most distributions many of the core facilities are simply a group of > enabled modules. All that is required to use PECL as well is for those > module to be packaged and available in the list of enable-able modules. I > don't think that anything should be done to take that control away from the > ISP's that are providing the service. > > -- > Lester Caine - G8HFL > ----------------------------- > Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk > Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk > > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > -- Tom Boutell P'unk Avenue 215 755 1330 punkave.com window.punkave.com