Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:61924 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86920 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2012 14:53:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Aug 2012 14:53:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sv_forums@fmethod.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sv_forums@fmethod.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain fmethod.com from 209.85.215.170 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sv_forums@fmethod.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.170 mail-ey0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.170] ([209.85.215.170:64771] helo=mail-ey0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DB/69-32875-9E249105 for ; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:53:30 -0400 Received: by eaao10 with SMTP id o10so1726932eaa.29 for ; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 07:53:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:cc:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=ehCUYQyWFwjEoqu/R/gc56S3XUg4ALxfAFCFGOMAW9o=; b=n+lPD35DgmqxW6oCqdwvQHObBS7RlkgUYyxls6yoBYTwyUmhTK1+umbZ36daFuriub AOsa7d/+oAYsHAzkgI8PvrlKsFCjpUpRUvnLWQ8KQr5FvXVZ5osel6au5u9hnhLLw+u5 CdAO1uWLeh0d3ZCvN70Ibe9uirmLY36hWxcOafjepu8/pOQA+99hKmlb+9UYeq+8Xw+K ySiApxHTgzfHf4emfDjhRBut7DXA8UQG0rfPRjDDMCAIcge2ofn5ITfpBhdbFedVHL62 Vtc6Cv6DVoASutSp0/E/1u+rMJmwEQ+eTXmBeW9XQnaNgZ75epkKnUQ9qb/Vto1D7ZAn O0TQ== Received: by 10.14.181.132 with SMTP id l4mr1234065eem.17.1343832807144; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 07:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc (79-100-60-213.btc-net.bg. [79.100.60.213]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h42sm9572769eem.5.2012.08.01.07.53.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Aug 2012 07:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: To: "Stefan Marr" Cc: References: <232501B15F7F4B3197123F219370E36D@pc> <2125641B4C7D4D6E8616F86C9C5563D2@pc> <5D98E000-D40D-43EC-9C94-D5B00331C82E@stefan-marr.de> <7D18CEE8-F045-43BF-BC4D-8A718FB5CED0@stefan-marr.de> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:53:17 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnX8hMt2ePlVPXJMRZkUGq++SCzqLQC88YLSNzit2bCYuXVEYIOG2pJuqLgqbMuIyPLs/Wm Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Traits behavior still up in the air in 5.4 From: sv_forums@fmethod.com ("Stan Vass") I'd like to apologize for my language. My goal isn't to insult anybody, especially PHP contributors of major features like traits. I hope we can talk strictly implementation issues, I think I have a good idea how we can move this forward, I'll email you a list of behavior changes that I think make sense next 48 hours and we can discuss it offlist to keep the noise low here, if you'd like. Stan