Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:61922 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 82282 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2012 14:01:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Aug 2012 14:01:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.211.66 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.211.66 config.schlueters.de Received: from [217.114.211.66] ([217.114.211.66:47196] helo=config.schlueters.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 11/A8-32875-AB639105 for ; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:01:31 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.230] (host-188-174-206-176.customer.m-online.net [188.174.206.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by config.schlueters.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C732363970; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 16:01:27 +0200 (CEST) To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP internals In-Reply-To: <5019234C.1050804@lsces.co.uk> References: <50163FAD.4020004@lsces.co.uk> <5016A5A8.50506@lerdorf.com> <5018CA7E.5070802@lsces.co.uk> <5018CC83.4030002@sugarcrm.com> <5018D2D1.2040004@lsces.co.uk> <5018D80D.7020502@sugarcrm.com> <5018DDD4.7010608@lsces.co.uk> <5018E16C.8020703@sugarcrm.com> <5018E419.7040504@lerdorf.com> <5018EA9E.1010603@lsces.co.uk> <1545370736.258369.1343822288886.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxwebmail.registrar-servers.com> <5019234C.1050804@lsces.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:01:34 +0200 Message-ID: <1343829694.1449.382.camel@guybrush> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bringing users along ... From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 13:38 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: > The default if it's not included in the .ini is ON, but the > sample .ini's both switch it off, and that is what the distributions > follow when creating a clean install. > > ALL that was required when the problem was identified was that handled in PHP5.3 the same way it IS now handled in PHP5.4 and the > problem would not exist. This is an example of not thinking through to > production a simple change in the core PHP ... The default are the compiled in values. The provided ini files are suggestions with comments for improving the configuration above the default. Those values aren't the default for exactly the reason you identified. If distributions "force" those values on you complain there. And no, we won't change the core language (