Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:61918 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73903 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2012 12:38:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Aug 2012 12:38:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.132 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.132 c2bthomr14.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.132] ([213.123.20.132:50701] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1D/17-32875-15329105 for ; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 08:38:42 -0400 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr14.btconnect.com with ESMTP id IMV29571; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:38:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <5019234C.1050804@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:38:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 Firefox/13.0 SeaMonkey/2.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <50163FAD.4020004@lsces.co.uk> <5016A5A8.50506@lerdorf.com> <5018CA7E.5070802@lsces.co.uk> <5018CC83.4030002@sugarcrm.com> <5018D2D1.2040004@lsces.co.uk> <5018D80D.7020502@sugarcrm.com> <5018DDD4.7010608@lsces.co.uk> <5018E16C.8020703@sugarcrm.com> <5018E419.7040504@lerdorf.com> <5018EA9E.1010603@lsces.co.uk> <1545370736.258369.1343822288886.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxwebmail.registrar-servers.com> In-Reply-To: <1545370736.258369.1343822288886.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxwebmail.registrar-servers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0302.5019234C.00C8, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2012.8.1.115414:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_ENDS_IN_URL, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr14.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0201.5019234E.007D:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bringing users along ... From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Andrew Faulds wrote: >> Then can you explain why > >of ISP's who have recently updated from 5.2 to 5.3 ... > Which? "A number of ISP's"? How many are we talking about? > Also, is it our problem if ISPs changed their configuration during an upgrade? > How do we know it's our fault? Debian or RedHat or some other common base > distribution may have changed the configuration - you realise that they are most > likely using a slightly modified version from a distribution, and use the > distribution defaults, or a modified version of that, yes? Probably not the > official PHP version directly built from source, I'd figure. > >> >The default on PHP5.3 is to switch 'short_open_tag' off? which also disables >> > I'm fairly sure Rasmus said it wasn't. And, being Rasmus, I think I can trust > him on that;) > > (I don't really use short tags, so I don't know myself) The default if it's not included in the .ini is ON, but the sample .ini's both switch it off, and that is what the distributions follow when creating a clean install. ALL that was required when the problem was identified was that