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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bringing users along ...
From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine)

Stas Malyshev wrote:
>> Helping to solve the problem would also help everybody else upgrade TO PHP5.4?
> OK, so what help do you require?
PEAR and PECL that work with PHP5.4 out of the box?
At least the core of PEAR that does not throw strict warnings from a stock 
install of PHP5.4 as E_STRICT is on.

>> >Add to this the fun getting Apache 2.4 configured with PHP and my old framework,
>> >it is no wonder I grumpy ... I would much rather be adding functionality and
>> >working on NEW stuff than fixing the problems other people leave behind. And I
>> >don't need any of the new PHP5.3/44 features to write my own new code.
> While I can sympathize with your problems fixing bad code left by other
> people, I am not sure how it is relevant on this list - is there
> something that people present on this list can help you with? What is it?

I think that this is the problem here. "fixing bad code" is simply not a 
statement that I recognise! I am not fixing bad code, I am re-writing much of it 
simply because the style is no longer acceptable, or somebody changed a default 
setting without considering the consequences ( <?= not working in PHP5.3 is 
STILL biting as ISP are only upgrading to PHP5.3! )

I still have not had a proper answer to a question I repeatedly ask. "Please can 
we have some tutorials on how 'strict' styling should be used?" I'm fixing the 
warnings created but I still do not fully understand what I am fixing. The main 
rework area has been not being able to use '$this' in static functions, even if 
the function checks $this and defaults to the static code internally. Adding 
'public/private/protected/static/self ...' and using them in the right places is 
well documented in bits and pieces, but there is no general 'how to' put the 
whole together? I suppose someone will want to add traits and the rest to that, 
but just a simple style guide for the basics would be nice ...

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