Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:61769 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 25498 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2012 15:37:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jul 2012 15:37:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=alex.aulbach@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=alex.aulbach@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: alex.aulbach@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.42 mail-vb0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.42] ([209.85.212.42:39145] helo=mail-vb0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 04/E7-19281-EA210105 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:37:19 -0400 Received: by vbbfs19 with SMTP id fs19so760299vbb.29 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:37:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pnUSWUoAan1q9cL97/wwfwz0k1TbRr+kHVasNL7LI3k=; b=0MX8Ek/iARk58NrVZxCLvFqNxakl5PJjV3G3X9uKaiepU9UEaQdgDkMGfkebNTxN6j GH9JdxYeMHIyH7J/3o3j3BBU+0uP5jgObpdDXGjS6LrUu3MyBzU9BKMZr2hHHnjDYb91 Mk3TQGob7AqQpnng3Pt/cNPeL3Z+I2qbZxecMsZkkMFIEtvOM4n8Kbtx8R6HIvfHIC02 SzJ+X7ORInMW8oDLDnEMC6eyaqpwkYPpqB7khZ/QArY8yShuDlito0Q94pAnnea+ftvR 2HN9ACuJhhIXC3+EAHATJAmsz+WgwUBPVvnAs0qowk/GSMxW4weII4F8uu91Oz0oyCBo afAw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.71.137 with SMTP id v9mr16372215vdu.63.1343230636242; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.249.177 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:37:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <500EDCC7.1020402@ajf.me> <500EE3B9.8010902@ajf.me> <500EEA76.1030407@ajf.me> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:37:16 +0200 Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: Sherif Ramadan , Andrew Faulds , internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Generators in PHP From: alex.aulbach@gmail.com (Alex Aulbach) 2012/7/25 Ferenc Kovacs : >> more than 20 years >> experience in that. Do you have that? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority So what? U are using Wikipedia to invalidate me. :) Is it so bad to hear an people with more experience? Do you have problems with it with authority? :) So lets make it clear: I say - and I would bet on it - this feature will cause problems, when implemented like this. Not because of technical reasons, but because it isn't nicely embedded into PHP. Normal PHP-programmers will have problems to understand it correctly. And I'm sure that I'm right, because of my experience. And be warned: In 90% when I begin to bet, I win. This is also from experience. > First you say that you are right, because you have more experience in the > topic than the others, then you accuse the "PHP-internals" that they are > favoring their opinion over the rest about the php language development. Name conflict. I meant the PHP-programmers. I call me a PHP-developer, because I develop programs in PHP. Not a good idea at this list. :) And yes, I think that there is a more ore less small gap between that, what the "mass" of anonymous PHP-programmers really needs and that, what is written in this internals list. I with you introducing new features like this, but it must be done in a way that is more self-explaining, has a low learning-curve. Yield implemented like this dosn't match this criteria. -- Alex Aulbach