Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:61763 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14670 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2012 14:19:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jul 2012 14:19:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.125 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.125 c2bthomr07.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.125] ([213.123.20.125:51789] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9E/A5-19281-E7000105 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:19:43 -0400 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr07.btconnect.com with ESMTP id IOS68990; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:19:39 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <5010007A.8060609@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:19:38 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 Firefox/13.0 SeaMonkey/2.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <500EDCC7.1020402@ajf.me> <500EE3B9.8010902@ajf.me> <500EEA76.1030407@ajf.me> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Good-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0301.5010007B.003E, actions=TAG X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2012.7.25.133318:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_ENDS_IN_URL, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_1400_1499, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr07.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0201.5010007B.00BF:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Generators in PHP From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Sherif Ramadan wrote: >> ... I have no problem >> >with it, I use PHP every day, but as explained most PHP-developers >> >will have problems and I can say that, because I've more than 20 years >> >experience in that. Do you have that? >> > > 20 years experience in PHP? No, I believe it only ever appeared > publicly about 17 years ago. > 20 years experience with developers that have problems? Yes, there's > no shortage of them. I top you 20 years with 37 years. I was programming in Algol in 1975 ( at Warwick university ). I'm not a programmer, I'm a hardware engineer who has to program to make systems work. I added PHP 12 years ago to create web based applications to augment c and Pascal based applications. Many of the concepts being added make sense only as extensions to the core code, and don't need to be forced into general use. Adding tools that have very specialist use should be done as options, which we can leave out if we want to. The it needs to be justified switching something on by default. I have no objection to 'new facilities', but only if I can also switch them off ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk