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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Generators in PHP
From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine)

Alex Aulbach wrote:
>> PHP made implementation mistakes in the past that led to awkward
>> >behavior (like objects passed by value in PHP4), but that's never
>> >stopped things from moving forward and offering up useful features
>> >that users want. I think putting the technical details aside the
>> >engine can aid a developer in distinguishing between spotting
>> >unintended side effects and preventing disastrous consequences.
> I like that kind of agile programming, too.
>
> But if someone like me says "come on, lets make it a little bit more
> easy, because returning objects from functions is some kind of
> unconventional; many developers will make mistakes here..." - why not?
> They will. I can tell by sure.
>
> Since I begun reading this mailing list I have the impression, that
> there are only PHP-programmers like us out there. But the fact is,
> that the most PHP-programmers didn't even read the manuals completly.
> You may say "Their fault" "Are they programmers, if they don't?", but
> this is first a little bit of ignorance because second this is one of
> the best features, that PHP has - this "nicely flow", everybody can do
> it. I always think of Bob Ross, when I explain PHP.

The manual that I read bears no resemblance to the current one, and I still have 
to find a manual that ACTUALLY explains how I should write code that it 'strict' 
compliant. The bulk of the on-line boilerplates are no longer fit for purpose so 
how can we expect newcomers to 'get it right first time'

> But it's ok, there are no mistakes, there are just happy little accidents.:)

That covers most of my best software :)

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Lester Caine - G8HFL
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