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Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:00:09 +0100
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To: Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tags
From: ajfweb@googlemail.com (Andrew Faulds)

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I also think <? is good. Consider:

<? if (user.loggedin) ?>
<a href=/logout>Logout</a>
<? elseif ?>
<? href=/login>Log in</a> | <a href=/register>Register</a>
<? endif ?>

With <?php, it's less readable (it's not so bad, but I certainly prefer the
former.)

<?php if (user.loggedin) ?>
<a href=/logout>Logout</a>
<?php elseif ?>
<a href=/login>Log in</a> | <a href=/register>Register</a>
<?php endif ?>
On Jul 21, 2012 8:03 AM, "Lester Caine" <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote:

> Rick Bird wrote:
>
>>    My name is Rick.. I done some light work on documentation side of
>> things,
>> but I had a question because I've been working a lot with the Symfony
>> framework lately.  Some in the Symfony irc room seem to be under the
>> impression that short_open_tags is to be deprecated in php6.  Is there any
>> weight to this?  I personally have found short tags a great tool, and
>> simplifies a lot of things.  In cases where there is the alternative
>> syntax
>> being used (great when working with php templates), <? If( $you == $them):
>> ?>.  I understand the biggest reason to discourage short tags is for xml.
>>
>
> Now that <?= has been properly separated from <? some of the 'pressure'
> has been removed. Any attempt to remove <?= WOULD be strongly opposed, but
> I am in total agreement with you on <? for exactly the same reason. Simple
> templating systems don't need anything more and adding <?php everywhere
> does make these a lot more difficult to read. To my mind this is what PHP
> is all about, and killing things just because they don't conform with the
> 'perfect programming language' is irritating. Perhaps another example where
> two versions of PHP might actually be a sensible split?
>
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