Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:61096 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12795 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2012 16:54:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jul 2012 16:54:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.170 mail-gg0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.170] ([209.85.161.170:57958] helo=mail-gg0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 14/23-30242-ED323FF4 for ; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 12:54:54 -0400 Received: by ggnf2 with SMTP id f2so6339459ggn.29 for ; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 09:54:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Sibk1ip/4SSa+MBesp6Uchzvz76qCPC4ddWmZqRG/NM=; b=JZxRVqeVmmZGVlGGeQaiBHOL/Kde9ycDP+6+mu8y6Q6noRPmyQ8fgLIcaRUnjq1iQ6 +dhME22ksTI2CA/FIv3E+ZdG0OgaZLdJoSu5AkIrGv2WAuj1Fr5cnLwFUIpcLhFFMhMW azv8wkUihAbztZ05CIDLr9hgkYC03MoEj4/fJDaW6bESIja+ClQt75hf4YLKRaSTElZH TlBLs5vFqT/OdqFl8Tg0R7o/ZOvVgz0UPRXjq54zBzMxVv+Zg+AbIr7gq8aJpQZkTbNd X2XrfwrE/t9CPUG3ISEoSy5GgyR0AbSaou2qHdkWwVU/H4aPEMdoMNZ7Hg7ki98gsRwT JEnw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.97.129 with SMTP id o1mr6788481icn.44.1341334491803; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 09:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.164.134 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.164.134 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:54:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4FF2FFBF.8050301@lerdorf.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 19:54:51 +0300 Message-ID: To: Tom Boutell Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30363963e8af3804c3efc59c Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 & pecl yet? From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks) --20cf30363963e8af3804c3efc59c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just to be clear - all 3 major opcode cachers i know (zend optimizer excluded - have no idea what he has) have that shared memory cache with almost identical API. Some have extended functionality (xcache has xcache_isset(), haven't seen that in others, but have to confess i haven't been looking for some time now), so they are easily swappable. 03.07.2012 15:54 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0= =B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Tom Boutell" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1= =81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > The ability to store your own data in the APC cache is a feature that > does get used a lot in the Symfony framework world because of the > availability of the sfAPCCache and whatever its Symfony 2 equivalent > is. It's popular with folks who haven't felt the need to set up Redis > or some other external cache yet. I'm not sure whether this is > something you consider a "legacy feature." > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Pierre Joye wrote= : > > hi, > > > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Arvids Godjuks > wrote: > >> There are alternative opcode cachers besides APC. For example xcache, > for > >> me, just works when APC is still catching up. > >> I remember someone writing about APC that it is overly compex internal= ly > >> and due to that hard to keep up with the changes in the PHP, maybe tha= t > is > >> not the case now. > > > > It is still the case. > > > > I for one would like to kill all the legacy features or too specific > > features which are really unusable by any common developers. > > > > Other developers may disagree but it makes very hard to maintain APC. > > > > Cheers, > > > >> 2012/7/3 Tom Boutell > >> > >>> Given the impracticality of using PHP without APC, it would be nice i= f > >>> it were part of the main "if these fail, it's not ready" test suite. > >>> But I suppose that's just administering beatings until morale improve= s > >>> (: > > > > > > > > -- > > Pierre > > > > @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org > > > > -- > Tom Boutell > P'unk Avenue > 215 755 1330 > punkave.com > window.punkave.com > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --20cf30363963e8af3804c3efc59c--