Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:60811 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37563 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2012 04:11:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Jun 2012 04:11:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.170 mail-gg0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.170] ([209.85.161.170:52379] helo=mail-gg0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CD/71-24588-B0318DF4 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:11:55 -0400 Received: by ggnf2 with SMTP id f2so106312ggn.29 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:11:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Bb/M65dJ9AaVbIkaCyi5EkULoPKzea2fm5x+lwZhZTw=; b=Y7L3dmmbLaqJvj7YQv4ywLbqTFYwqyKQOcR2uIB3qqMVI7gcNLbbx0QQAoqE7jDEEH GpUPZwFqFpTkSRO4gjFyo/gozDNVTzazuDJXqaXwSzSn2KcUY1M4f3xoXzSSOrEEwDG1 nCg3CIcsGG5G59E1HzrTKnGHq0VyQPSgPyO5p9b/5fIbxfSMLay0Ffe50SG7fwGJnXOM MXgL/pHjWhNz51bfWykSa6mQlfcNRkq8vDk0XldKtCX0O+yXjWn3E6/E/8jxm8sDzTZE Skv7tK3shBIlDW0b8x7IHncYzOaD9/KioPXg6orEp9sg+wC7g3I0rbzrYc4Mal9mh7j0 S3qw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.114.161 with SMTP id c21mr31652043yhh.51.1339560712825; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.113.7 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:11:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FD786EA.7040401@sugarcrm.com> References: <4FD786EA.7040401@sugarcrm.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:11:52 +0200 Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: Anthony Ferrara , David Soria Parra , Derick Rethans , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PBKDF2 addition to OpenSSL - Why Not Hash? From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi Stas, On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > I disagree. I've always stated small, self-contained features that do > not involve infrastructure changes may be OK, and the RFC explicitly > says so too. Yes, and trivial or self contained and can be discussed on a case by case basis. I do not see a discussion nor a proposal here, only a commit followed by a merge. Even the SSL maintainers were not involved at all. That's not an acceptable way to deal with such things, sorry. > If this particular feature is not having consensus, fine, > let's revert it, but in general saying "5.4 is bug fixes ONLY" is not > correct, self-contained function additions, especially ones that have > good usage potential, may be also approved. Approved if proposed, well thought, well implemented and well tested. With all respects to Scott's work, not the 1st time that it happened. We already have issues in this exact extension because of bad API choices. A little momentum is always necessary to get things done right. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org