Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:60773 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 84715 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2012 07:41:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jun 2012 07:41:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.170 mail-gh0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.170] ([209.85.160.170:43398] helo=mail-gh0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D1/D3-60259-21B50DF4 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 03:41:07 -0400 Received: by ghbg2 with SMTP id g2so206848ghb.29 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:41:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Yqqc0TgRwSnFOFQ5q5XLJ1Y12z1ykJLg1YLfcWuFguw=; b=Jg7ckwpOMQwMsGw0lyPIU5gbKFWQZ/fzRvHBWEVfDXAPm/C6aXnhJpR8zGLT+g4UMP IQLoZ+2osa023jhhyeL9e0gsekkMkYCkSYZffvTRaCIrMuAEBNZWa1nrk/8eeEtf4e5k 1Sw8sK9AHFtUGZh9gnll3jjPtq55HxlBDRxIeej7SCHAEEHij8lXk7ynvfEN6QGlYLNs 3GGNJo+/lKLGZ5E4EEYw94FBCJUO4YT8qvL0XZ7mdIaO+UW76pzre40Gu3F1QqfItGDP 224iSJQy9I+Hj9EcbJoLyxmXYiB4AXwWfUB8hcbpNjGbLFtYet8VOMXbeKBlvYPnNKna Z4CA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.165.74 with SMTP id d50mr1056352yhl.48.1339054863963; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.113.7 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:41:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9a2db39a-1bf2-4f7d-9713-2c6672d51783@email.android.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:41:03 +0200 Message-ID: To: Gustavo Lopes Cc: Felipe Pena , Kris Craig , Derick Rethans , David Soria Parra , internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] boolval() again From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi Gustavo, On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Gustavo Lopes wrote: > Adding a function or class most definitely is not a language change (unless > they have some special treatment like Iterator), unless you consider all the > core functions and classes to be part of the language, at which point > everything is a language change. boolval like other type related functions are not languages constructs per se but parts of the very core of PHP, so same treatment applies. > An RFC for such a trivial change is an utter waste of time IMO. I would not say waste of time, but for the long term record and clarity, a RFC should always be written, no matter how short (i.e. boolval) or long (i.e. intl additions) it is. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org