Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:60494 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 522 invoked from network); 6 May 2012 15:07:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 May 2012 15:07:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.210.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.210.45 mail-pz0-f45.google.com Received: from [209.85.210.45] ([209.85.210.45:60931] helo=mail-pz0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 45/F2-17543-D9396AF4 for ; Sun, 06 May 2012 11:07:11 -0400 Received: by dadv2 with SMTP id v2so7285082dad.18 for ; Sun, 06 May 2012 08:07:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Mn24/mRabBz9H5MiF9A1t9XquJULZuT1814/BvzWApw=; b=HQKRVnDbgFwk4ymVxfE8OYw/O61rx0Ef24HtG8RNes04VRU+9M0YxRD4U5ilXVR5p8 DCu2zQ9hmVh+paKPpUooEmcNRkDBUDUeFail+uNZ/TtuNHZZtculaH+MstJpEpKX1MsK APh7E8koL3LWcJpFGVYBrofjUYqeq4YK5CmMwpTQnOm/0OwxN8OB/mloVp8sUs2wWWHg gje6afayLM1eeg1hLLYj7a7+tiOGbdNc9yeT5lT061PNNuV3bY05YDWUwpeJiXkLX6It 48t5KDhLps37pcfExglgHVS9ys6tZtqae8oNHX6TSZdk2ozZ6QxWPvM8pUac7ADsMlVt mjNw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.219.162 with SMTP id pp2mr37074200pbc.85.1336316827357; Sun, 06 May 2012 08:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.227.40 with HTTP; Sun, 6 May 2012 08:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.227.40 with HTTP; Sun, 6 May 2012 08:07:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 17:07:07 +0200 Message-ID: To: Dmitri Dmitrison Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff24a2bcd533604bf5f81c2 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Are feature request bugs ever looked at? From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --e89a8ff24a2bcd533604bf5f81c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a quick reply from my phone: anybody can register a wiki account and anybody can get rfc karma after sending a mail to the php-webmaster mailing list (this is a basic spam protection). about the rfc vs bug tracker: the wiki and the rfc process came later than the bugtracker. I would open a feature request ticket if I don't know how to proceed further or I don't have the time to create and push an RFC. Otherwise I would go with an rfc: albeit it requires more work from the reporter but makes up for it because it provides much bigger visibility and guranteed response from the developers. 2012.05.06. 16:28, "Dmitri Dmitrison" ezt =C3=ADrta: > Hi all, > > First time poster here... Just hoping to get some information. > It says on bugs.php.net that the best way to 'support' a request, is to > vote on it. > However, the most voted feature requests rarely get so much as a reply fr= om > a PHP developer, let alone an implementation. > > I'm not being critical, I just wanna understand what is the official PHP > team's stance on this issue? > It seems to me there are two ways to submit requests now days - one via > RFC, and one via the bug system. > > On one hand, I've witnessed some good RFCs come to life rather quickly... > On the other, I've seen highly rated feature requests in the bug system l= ay > unattended for years and decades. > > So that just makes me wonder. > Is anyone even checking the bug system for requests anymore? > If the team feels strongly not to implement certain features, could you > just reply to those tickets and close them? > Would it be better to create RFCs instead? > > If so, how do we, mere users, go about doing it? > Since it is not a open wiki, is there a person we can contact, who will > create an RFC for us? > Is there any other way to get response to a feature request? Can we post = to > internals about it? > In general, what is the correct way to post feature requests if we want > them to have any chance of getting accepted (or at least responded to)? > > The only path that's available to regular users - the bug tracker - seems > to be utterly unresponsive, and that is frustrating. > Again, I'm not trying to be negative, and maybe there is a FAQ somewhere > with all the answers, that I'm just not seeing... > > Hopefully you can clarify this for me. > Thank you. > --e89a8ff24a2bcd533604bf5f81c2--