Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:60350 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1211 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2012 09:25:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Apr 2012 09:25:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.186 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.186 c2beaomr08.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.186] ([213.123.26.186:19152] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 69/93-06766-477BB9F4 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:25:10 -0400 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr08.btconnect.com with ESMTP id HEH60162; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:25:06 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4F9BB771.6060608@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:25:05 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <4F9B44B4.4050800@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: <4F9B44B4.4050800@sugarcrm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0301.4F9BB771.0100, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2012.4.24.151515:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, URI_ENDS_IN_PHP, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_SIZE_1500_1599, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr08.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B020C.4F9BB772.0038:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] considering to remove ext/imap from master From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Stas Malyshev wrote: >> > May I ask why you agreed to move sqlite away? That is a very close >> > situation (well, better as sqlite library status was way better than >> > current c-client). > There's sqlite3, but nothing like this for imap. If there were another > superior imap extension it would be different business. That I think is exactly the point here? While imap is not being maintained, there has been no pressure to produce an alternative simply because it does a job. YES there are problems with it which nobody has stepped up to the plate to address which is the real problem, and changes to PHP do cause problems when they require work in all the extensions to maintain compatibility, but in the absence of an alternative is there any option but to leave it available. What are the alternatives to it that can be bundled into a base distribution? Is this another case where a switch to a more generally distributed model should be the way forward. ALL extensions are optional and only need to be rebuilt when there are core interface changes that require that, rather than every extension having to be recompiled with every version number change? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php