Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:60345 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60008 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2012 20:54:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Apr 2012 20:54:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain nebm.ist.utl.pt from 193.136.128.22 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt X-Host-Fingerprint: 193.136.128.22 smtp2.ist.utl.pt Linux 2.6 Received: from [193.136.128.22] ([193.136.128.22:41697] helo=smtp2.ist.utl.pt) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6C/18-16466-F670B9F4 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:54:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A96870003CB for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:54:04 +0100 (WEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.6.4 (20090625) (Debian) at ist.utl.pt Received: from smtp2.ist.utl.pt ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.ist.utl.pt [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id P07-MRmGSYyn for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:54:04 +0100 (WEST) Received: from mail2.ist.utl.pt (mail.ist.utl.pt [IPv6:2001:690:2100:1::8]) by smtp2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9A5700045B for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:54:03 +0100 (WEST) Received: from damnation.mshome.net (damnation-air.nl.lo.geleia.net [IPv6:2001:470:94a2:4:7d06:1af1:ea64:2d52]) (Authenticated sender: ist155741) by mail2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CBC81201BE1D for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:54:02 +0100 (WEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: internals@lists.php.net References: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:54:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: =?utf-8?Q?N=C3=BAcleo_de_Eng=2E_Biom=C3=A9di?= =?utf-8?Q?ca_do_I=2ES=2ET=2E?= Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (Win32) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] considering to remove ext/imap from master From: glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt ("Gustavo Lopes") On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:49:03 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote: > Before I go with a RFC and all that, I would like to check the current > feeling about killing ext/imap. The c-client project is dead since > quite some time already. I do not see any viable alternative > (applicable to server side usages) and it would be very hard to > maintain the same APIs, given the little mess in the imap's API. > > There are also plenty of very good PHP implementation out there. > Roundcube being my favourite, zeta components of the Zend Frameworks > being two other. > > What are your thoughts about this drop? Since the library is not maintained anymore, this is an obvious candidate to move to PECL -- same case as sqlite. But then PHP will be further from Zawinski's law of software envelopment, which is a cause for concern :) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Zawinski#Zawinski.27s_law_of_software_envelopment -- Gustavo Lopes