Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:60170 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22659 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2012 08:34:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Apr 2012 08:34:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=hartmut.holzgraefe@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=hartmut.holzgraefe@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: hartmut.holzgraefe@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.42 mail-bk0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.42] ([209.85.214.42:51441] helo=mail-bk0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 81/83-03614-1AC7E8F4 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 04:34:42 -0400 Received: by bkcje9 with SMTP id je9so5874291bkc.29 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:34:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TvIjFRFsyM1LUtHDtf8Ij4U0q2NVOTDkfoVvJyAA3rI=; b=OZknC8W5wV+9eCjBBxMR51MFvvEWJQwGsugvcfNc3LBA2ePtB9VMj86ZZdE8T9k4Cw 2sqU4pScxI73qv4z6uNu36cunTVjdfZOs86V7jWT+eSTRWvC6DBYYdY9RThZYm5mBkZc c2qib43edbMpLAKCT7ANP2ELEtfyWhNWNdWSXosV5MRECf4+3IKzwNC1M4IF2cJNfHBt QfYbp3hqFuqhSYYnXu3FKs/TH2TxUm4Ug8Cpb97QoGdUfh6t0bCBIuuyqgMBFrfXg6KF mVvhT+3brl6hMt9Cx21SiPEdshpfZasENc0hKNPu7tHFl2XYURGml5bcbrDNTMZIUdnX g7Lw== Received: by 10.205.124.20 with SMTP id gm20mr393976bkc.111.1334738079031; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.23.15] (212.100.42.202.fixip.bitel.net. [212.100.42.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s16sm42589152bkt.3.2012.04.18.01.34.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: hartmut holzgraefe Message-ID: <4F8E7CA0.9070400@php.net> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:34:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120329 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [off] PHP: a fractal of bad design From: hartmut@php.net (Hartmut Holzgraefe) On 04/10/2012 06:20 PM, Adir Kuhn wrote: > Hi folks, > > today I read this post, I think that some points are valid, follow the link for > you guys as stuff like this comes up again and again (although not in as epic lenght as this one) i've been thinking whether it might make sense to have some "PHP Gotchas, how they came to be, and why we can't simply fix them" FAQ section in the manual or wiki? If nothing else it would at least help with dealing with this kind of rant (nothing new here, move along, your concerns were already covered in ### in great detail), but also might help that would indeed want to understand why some things are as they are. I'd rather proactively own this kind of discussions than just jump into them whenever they arise elsewhere ... -- hartmut