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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re voting
From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig)

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Sharon,

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:42 PM, <slevy1@pipeline.com> wrote:

> Stas:
>
> Just b/c there are rarely any women at all that participate on this list,
> could we at list maintain a facade of gender neutrality?  I seriously can't
> believe that you used the word "him".  What about "her"?  Yeah, "her" as in
> myself and every other woman who codes with PHP whether to earn her living
> or to have a pleasant past-time?  I am sure that there are plenty of PHP
> women just like me who  might really appreciate having the opportunity to
> vote on changes that might effect the way we work.
>
> Currently, it's as clear as mud to me as to what I need to do to be able
> to have some kind of voting impact.  The protocol or process needs to be
> clearly articulated in very clear language so that all concerned PHP men
> and women can be informed.
>
> Sharon Lee Levy, ZCE
>
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You raise a valid concern, but I think you were unfairly harsh toward Stas.
 The gender-neutral "he" is an accepted standard in English.  Maybe it
shouldn't be, and I would applaud efforts to change that, but berating
someone who uses it isn't the best way to get your message across.

Personally, I'm a fan of the singular "they".  Some people prefer to use
"ze" instead, but I think it just sounds stupid.  Why?  Well, just say the
following sentence in a funny accent of your choosing and you'll
understand:  "What is ze doing?!"  ;)

--Kris

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