Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:60056 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30613 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2012 04:27:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Apr 2012 04:27:00 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=philip@roshambo.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=philip@roshambo.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain roshambo.org from 209.85.160.42 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: philip@roshambo.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.42 mail-pb0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.42] ([209.85.160.42:37772] helo=mail-pb0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C6/2E-05733-111FC8F4 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 00:26:57 -0400 Received: by pbcun1 with SMTP id un1so7823497pbc.29 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:26:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=M0Uz51IoxE1WDqtIvc7ZNvSyqpzP0koL0RgFkUB4y+U=; b=mBIol2/xkJ+7axFzcE5FWueexc3FeDPe6GtY1cyLQdwUf1WVDJZk6ujVWQLfIkSW10 CjDhLg/Dx94uUwchAVf0uAKLeFc6LCA44gwnKV+mzaDc6/9dJkQf0sGf9Eh+TYNX0JQp FvHwhfqXW1dHVbQ8RttTamnQEZQftZeJc2WuLCtILIpqPKmV4UJxKbZHI+Kabn3RrDyK F9PcvwqSz1p7IGhth+ydJbi1DjOq0Svn2/bPb9CdpvqGTJn1kVMd4xIE0TtFYqC3QSX6 qJeb9/teKz4G8/N5yCn6iZNXWpdU2Dz0q2U9dUCWwlJIHDoCKLnpHPZxZ2P5VbSIqoRL 6nsQ== Received: by 10.68.230.40 with SMTP id sv8mr33712580pbc.124.1334636814412; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (c-71-56-134-232.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [71.56.134.232]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qq1sm4855788pbc.18.2012.04.16.21.26.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:26:51 -0700 Cc: Kris Craig , Stas Malyshev , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <20D919E5-3935-4147-ADF7-3538A4C4CD3F@roshambo.org> References: <4F8C7FAC.6060709@sugarcrm.com> <4F8CABF8.9040301@sugarcrm.com> <4F8CB228.2070609@sugarcrm.com> To: Ferenc Kovacs X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlTypafLd+bGm2wqut7pKECh8FEq9qTHPByIZHCsO2bVmaSVLZcylc3cUR18SoCMEnbplsH Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] voting without vcs accounts From: philip@roshambo.org (Philip Olson) On Apr 16, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Kris Craig = wrote: >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Ferenc Kovacs = wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>>> Just to play devil's advocate (Satan and I go way back), what about >>>> people who are established PHP developers but who generally don't >>>> participate in the development/discussion of PHP core? An argument = could >>>> be made that, as the users of PHP, they should be able to have some = say in >>>> its development. That's not my position, mind you; I'm just = throwing that >>>> premise out there to see if it holds up. =3D) >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> could you please open a separate thread for that? >>> btw. "regular participant of internals discussions" is one of the = reason >>> on which group someone can get voting karma. >>> so if that is provided, anybody have a chance to get join >>> the decision making process. >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Ferenc Kov=E1cs >>> @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu >>>=20 >>=20 >> Why would that be a separate thread? Isn't that what we're talking >> about? I.e. determining who gets voting access and who doesn't? >=20 >=20 > I just ask for clarification on how the community representatives = (which is > defined in the accepted voting RFC) can get their karma. > You are talking about changing the requirements for somebody to be = able to > participate in the voting, thus changing/extending the original RFC. The voting RFC is unclear but aside from that, there are two non-vcs=20 accounts with voting karma today: User: damz: Damien Tournoud - damz@damz.org User: hywan: Ivan Enderlin - ivan.enderlin@hoa-project.net Not saying they should or should not, but just saying. And I'm not sure=20= how/when they received the voting karma but it happened. Regards, Philip=