Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:60049 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14455 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2012 02:41:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Apr 2012 02:41:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lists@rotorised.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lists@rotorised.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain rotorised.com from 117.55.227.20 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lists@rotorised.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 117.55.227.20 mta-data1.ironport2.cbr1.mail-filtering.com.au Received: from [117.55.227.20] ([117.55.227.20:57929] helo=mta-data1.ironport2.cbr1.mail-filtering.com.au) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CC/3B-05733-958DC8F4 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 22:41:31 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EAO7WjE+va78L/2dsb2JhbABEsj2CCQEBBThAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRMIAQGICQG5eY4lgyQEm0wTikOCeQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,432,1330866000"; d="scan'208";a="4605423" Received: from ju001lcs02.dfw.the-server.net.au (HELO ju001lcs02.dfw.the-server.com.au) ([175.107.191.11]) by smtp-data2.ironport2.cbr1.mail-filtering.com.au with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2012 12:41:25 +1000 Received: from [130.102.82.234] (helo=a82-1.nat.uq.edu.au) by ju001lcs02.dfw.the-server.com.au with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SJyM7-0048NX-Dv for internals@lists.php.net; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:41:24 +1000 Message-ID: <4F8CD84E.6050304@rotorised.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:41:18 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <4F8C7FAC.6060709@sugarcrm.com> <4F8CABF8.9040301@sugarcrm.com> <4F8CB228.2070609@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] voting without vcs accounts From: lists@rotorised.com (Ryan McCue) Kris Craig wrote: > An argument could be made that, as the users of PHP, they should be > able to have some say in its development. As a PHP developer (that is, a developer who writes in PHP), I'd agree, *to an extent*. There are certainly things that I'd like to be able to vote on (such as additions to the language/syntax and things such as .phpp). However, I've got no idea how easy such things are to implement, so I don't feel qualified to even ask to be able to vote. However, these things are going to influence me as a developer, so I'd like to be able to vote. Take, as an example, the .phpp debates. (Just as an example.) If I didn't like it, I'd like to be able to vote against it to avoid having to handle it later. However, if I *was* for it, I wouldn't feel qualified to comment, as I have no idea how hard these things are to implement. (Just my $0.02. Apologies if this is confusing, I'm a mixture of tired and distracted.)