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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:25:32 -0400
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Go for votes for the open tag-less PHP files
From: tom@punkave.com (Tom Boutell)

I think the 'as' solution is smart.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Kris Craig <kris.craig@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@googlemail.com=
>wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Rick WIdmer <vchkpw@developersdesk.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On 4/16/2012 1:02 PM, Kris Craig wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Rick
>> >> WIdmer<vchkpw@developersdesk.com>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> More important include doesn't currently allow multiple parms:
>> >>>
>> >>> =A0 include "foo.bar", 'baz';
>> >>>
>> >>> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ',' in bla.php on line xx
>> >> Regarding include/require, I agree that any BC break would be extreme=
ly
>> >> minimal. =A0In the 10+ years I've been developing PHP, I don't think =
I've
>> >> ever once seen somebody include multiple scripts on a single line (I
>> >> wasn't even aware that such a thing was allowed).
>> > See above. =A0It is not allowed now.
>>
>> I think there is a misunderstanding here. Inclusions with two
>> arguments are currently not allowed, yes. The point is that adding
>> such a second argument would make the grammar ambiguous.
>>
>> E.g, consider this:
>>
>> func(include 'foo', $someThing);
>>
>> Currently this is interpreted as the return value of 'foo' and the
>> variable $someThing being passed to func.
>>
>> If you add a second argument it's unclear what this does. Is this a
>> two-argument include? I.e. should it be interpreted as
>>
>> func((include 'foo', $someThing));
>>
>> Or is this a one-argument include and should be interpreted as
>>
>> func((include 'foo'), $someThing);
>>
>> In my eyes such an ambiguity renders any proposal to add another
>> argument to include completely unacceptable.
>>
>> The only option is to add a dedicated syntax for it like
>>
>> include 'foo' as $flags;
>>
>> Nikita
>>
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>>
> Hmm I like that idea. =A0Anyone see any downsides to using "as" instead o=
f
> comma delination?
>
> --Kris



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